I think Clubb will be a very good player for Wigan. Forget him as a centre, he will be a utility forward.

He is a big lad, with our team he could become a beast.

Also looking forward to getting Andy Powell fit for League. Lets not forget he didnt have a preseason. He only had a few weeks off between finishing a poor season with Sale. Give him a full preseason & he will be a good addition.

People tend to dismiss Powell and what he has achieved in Union. His style of play was perfect for League and he can be a real enforcer for us. Our pack is looking more and more dominant.

I don't think Powell will make it. It's playing the game that gains you the understanding of it, not getting fit pre-season and he looked lost at times when he did play. He has the physical attributes but even a young Scott Quinnell took virtually an entire season to learn the ropes and time isn't on Powell's side. And players like Taylor, Crosby, Dudson and Flower are not going to make it easy for him to get in the side.

I also thinks he lacks mobility which cold be fixed to a degree with a better pre-season but if he is just intrinsically not agile enough for the game Wigan play I can't see him getting many games over the next two years.

I agree to a certain extent. I wouldn't go as far as bluntly saying he won't make it, but it's the positonal aspects of the game that he needs to get a grasp of quickly, rather than his fitness or general rugby ability.

I definitely don't see him as a starting prop, but could be useful making an impact off the bench in short spells.

Depends on where Wigan wanna play him. I think that's one of the points of his signing, a utility forward as stated in the news article about him.

I actually think differently, Powell is mobile union 8 turned into a league prop, he has the mobility to be a great prop in league.
Powell is a big lad, great stength and power, plus he's a little bit of nutter which is a good thing when you're a prop.

After a good full pre-season he'll learn the position and prove to be a valid player. Afterall he's a prop, not a half.

I won't state that he's going to be a star. However I'm far more optimistic he will add value to our squad. He offers something that none of our other forwards do, which is proper size combined with aggression. If we can concentrate on his strengths and minimise his weaknesses he could be a very useful player and a real crowd pleaser.

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Everyone is far more optimistic than Dave O!!!

You can never discount the possibility that H might be up for a move... Maybe the management already know of certain players intentions. Much as people here don't like it, i can see other players leaving before their contracts end if they get offered enough money, and if it appears to be a good deal for the club. This does not make us a "selling club" as some would have it, it makes us a solvent club that deals in the market.

Overheard in Wigan town centre

1st old guy - "I see Wigan Warriors have bought Tony Clubb"

2nd old guy - " Tory Club eh, must be where they are putting that museum".

After some of the injuries that we suffered this season (2013) some of these signings seem sensible, lost of depth within the squad.
Can we farm players out and bring them back when we want from the scorpions and other championship clubs?
Does anyone know if we are sending any of the youngsters out on loan to other clubs?

Over the last 2 years most of the players signed have proved many wrong including me. Especially the Welsh props and the 6 and 7 combination we now have.

The club structure turns average players into good one and good ones into great ones. They will improve with us or a hungry 19 year old will take their spot. One small note though i will not judge them on their performances for the Broncos it must have been tough to motivate yourself day in day out knowing you were getting beaten. A change of clubs will be a culture shock for both.

Hopkins is already better and will become far better than A.Powell will ever be.

So did Henderson Gill...

I am totally willing to give Clubb a chance but people really should stop bringing up a game from 4 years ago when he played in a position he's not played in for nearly 2 seasons as an example of his class.