Senior had very good footwork and excellent handling ability. Your comparison renders your view of Gelling worthless.

I'm not taking it to heart, but, in your post the points you make are idiotic, to put it mildly. That's my opinion.

In your opinion of course.

It's becoming a common trait on this board that people simply shoot down others who don't agree with them.

Your opinion regarding basic errors such as show boating whilst in the act of scoring is neither here or there as not only is it something that can easily be cut out of his game but it's not a regular occurrence either. It's funny how people forget him commitment to get over the line which has already cost him an injury this season.

Keith was in no way shape or form a 'stepper' of a centre nor was his footwork the basis of his game. You also talk as if Gelling doesn't posses any sort of footwork either.

The same SP that referred to another poster in another thread as an idiot for merely having an opinion contrary to his own. If you want to be treated seriouslt then come to the table with a better compaison of a RL rookie / nobody versus a British international, highly decorated winger / centre who played what just short of 500 games Seniors game was based around great speed for size, a very effective step and a big fend. I am a Wigan follower but strewth even I can give players from other clubs some credit. Go to the Rhinos forum and spoit your far fetched view and see how many laugh. Better still do not whine when you insult posters yourself. Pot, Kettle, Black etc etc.

Brilliant post there full of sweeping statements and yet more assumptions based upon nothing but what seems to be your own sense of superiority.

First of all my comment calling another poster an idiot wasn't because of their view point being different to mine. Putting the word FACT after a post just makes a person seem like a sanctimonious tool. I have no issues with people having a different view point to mine and in fact I welcome it as it makes the forum better. If the person thinks Gelling will never be 'Wigan class' and makes a case as to why then that's fine by me. Instead the poster in question took the lazy option.

Secondly your statement that anyone who likes Gelling is somehow basing it on none playing issues is laughable. I'm still not sure what these other factors are btw as I don't know the guy off the pitch so my views are based how I've seen him perform. It's strange that you'd put that at the end of your argument as up to that point i have to admit i didn't agree with what you put BUT at least you'd structured your opinion into reasonable arguments.

I'd also like to know how me saying that Senior wasn't a centre with great finesse is knocking him or also me snot giving praise to opposition players? Now that's another assumption you've made with zero info to back it up. For the record i thought Senior was a great player and i'd have loved to see him at Wigan. I just don't think he was an agile, free flowing creative centre in mould of Gleeson or other players like that. Doesn't mean he wasn't a hell of a player.

Gelling is a big guy who's hard to put down, has a decent turn of pace (i'd say he's as quick as senior was) and after watching him in the academy he seems more natural playing at centre than he does on the wing. If i'm going to say what sort of centre HE COULD BE then i'll pick the best version of that type of player. IMO that's senior. That however isn't me saying Gelling could be better than Senior I'm just saying he COULD be that type of player.

•Great hands
•Great work rate
•Good offload
•Good size
•Decent speed
•Decent tackle technique
•Poor concentration
•Poor positioning

His problems are things that should be able to be coached out of him over time, he's worth keeping imo

Another point to raise is about is awareness, does he actually know what he's doing? Does he know what the opposition are doing? Or is he just a tall battering ram and awareness is not in his forte? We have had so many smart centres and second rowers and he doesnt come across as a smart player. Come to think of it he does remind me of Joel Tomkins and he wasnt a bad player. Put that list to Joel and it matches!

I don't think he's had enough game time to come to all those conclusions about him.
I was pretty annoyed when, for his second try, he seemed more interested in throwing the ball into the crowd rather than going nearer the posts. Not mearly as annoyed though when Hughes went to right centre, that I can't understand. The lad struggles there and he had a poor game because of it. Gelling didn't have a poor game.
Gelling has to be tried at centre next time Thornley is hooked or Goulding is injured/ill. The right defence made Ah Van and Isa look world beaters and neither are SL quality players.
Not sure how many games Gelling has played in the first team but he needs to play far more. I'm not sure what to make of him at present.

The lad will never win with some people. If he was English and more importantly from Wigan he'd be given that licence to make errors and people would focus on the positives like they do with the local kids.

He'll always have that battle to fight but he can only do so much. His try scoring record is exceptional, his workrate and attitude is excellent but he has things to work on, like anybody. One day we'll hopefully be able to judge him in his natural position also. He's never a winger but he gives it a fair crack.

The problem is that once their minds are made up (Lauaki, Gelling, Wane) it will take Sam like performances to change their minds.

Agree 100%

Care to explain why my post was idiotic? I clearly explained that in my opinion, during his period at wigan, I don't rate him. What's your problem?

This "not local" issue is a complete red herring, he's being judged on performances, not origin. There are plenty of recent non-local imports that have proved themselves on the pitch, and equally there are plenty of local lads whose leaving is not particularly regretted. I'd be delighted if he eventually proves to be another Richards or Dallas, but I haven't seen much evidence yet that he can do so, and that's the sort of quality we, as a club, should be looking for.

The Pro Gelling crew on this forum are unbelievable at times. Fans who reply, who for any reason don't like Gelling, get shot down in flames and called idiots and alike? There is no right answer and everybody is entitled to their opinion. To say if he was English people would be behind him and earlier posters also playing a race angle to a simple rugby debate is ignorant and childish.

Karl Pryce was English. Karl Pryce's try scoring record was exceptional. I was still front of the queue saying he was not good enough for Wigan, which he wasn't. And it is my opinion, and the opinion of many others on here, that Anthony Gelling is not and never will meet the standard required to be a starter in an elite super league team.

If you don't agree with our opinions then tough.

You lot are arguing like a bunch of old women

Hes a young lad who rarely plays and, when he does, hes out of position. Ive no doubt he is doing the best he can with the chances he has been given. I think ill let Mr Wane decide if hes any good or not