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Apparently, Mr Hock has said he's made a mistake in leaving Wigan. Highly doubt Lenegan & Wane will keep hold of him after what he's done to the club. I think he might go to Salford at the end of the season.

And Sinfield at 13? No, no, no. Sean O'loughlin is streets ahead of Sinfield at 13. if fit, he has to play in the World Cup. He's been outstanding for Wigan this year.

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Quote: NSmart96 "Apparently, Mr Hock has said he's made a mistake in leaving Wigan. Highly doubt Lenegan & Wane will keep hold of him after what he's done to the club. I think he might go to Salford at the end of the season.

And Sinfield at 13? No, no, no. Sean O'loughlin is streets ahead of Sinfield at 13. if fit, he has to play in the World Cup. He's been outstanding for Wigan this year.'"

Agreed, I'd play Sinfield in the halves and go with a pack of

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Where is it reported that Hock has said he made a mistake in leaving Wigan?
Any source of this info please?

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I've been told off somebody who knows him that he's pretty down about how things have ended at Wigan but there was no other option.

Maybe bridges could be built in time for 2014 but I doubt it.

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Quote: Father Ted "Where is it reported that Hock has said he made a mistake in leaving Wigan?
Any source of this info please?'"


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Quote: NickyKiss "I've been told off somebody who knows him that he's pretty down about how things have ended at Wigan but there was no other option.
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There was certainly no other option, as Wigan told him to sod off.

Is this Gareth's latest ploy: instead of trying to convince the world that it's all some Machiavellian conspiracy, now behaving like the penitent sinner?

Sorry, but anyone with half a brain could have seen that this would be the eventual outcome.

And poor Widnes - they've got an expensive but erratic player on their hands who doesn't even want to be there.

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Quote: NSmart96 "Apparently, Mr Hock has said he's made a mistake in leaving Wigan. Highly doubt Lenegan & Wane will keep hold of him after what he's done to the club. I think he might go to Salford at the end of the season.'"


I hope they dont. Hock has had more than enough chances at Wigan and it is time to tell him to go.

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Of course he wants to be elsewhere, hes a big name player, a quality player but this how things have turned out.

Ignoring his ill-discipline on the field, he has been fantastic in his short stint at Widnes.

My MOTM for the Hull KR and Hull game despite conceding 5 penalties. And the only other 2 games hes played in where his debut against Saints and 30 minutes against Bradford.

I can see people turning around and saying "Well its not hard to get noticed at Widnes", well it is, this season especially. Cross, Ocarrol, Allen and Cahill have all been superb.

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I can see people turning around and saying "Well its not hard to get noticed at Widnes", well it is, this season especially. Cross, Ocarrol, Allen and Cahill have all been superb.'"


That sort of adds fuel to the fire for people who will say its not hard for a player of Hocks class to stand out at Widnes though. We've had 3 of those players in our team, produced 2 of them and to say they're not in Hocks league would be the understatement of the century.

When Hocks head is right he's world class but I'm convinced he'll do more harm then good for Widnes. His head goes totally when the chips are down and with all due respect to your improving team that will still be more often then not.

His career will go down as a huge waste IMO.

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Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Of course he wants to be elsewhere, hes a big name player, a quality player but this how things have turned out.

Ignoring his ill-discipline on the field, he has been fantastic in his short stint at Widnes.

My MOTM for the Hull KR and Hull game despite conceding 5 penalties. And the only other 2 games hes played in where his debut against Saints and 30 minutes against Bradford.

I can see people turning around and saying "Well its not hard to get noticed at Widnes", well it is, this season especially. Cross, Ocarrol, Allen and Cahill have all been superb.'"


You're telling Wiganers what we've known for many years. He can be a monster of a player on his day, and when he destroys the opposition almost single-handed - as he did at Saints last Boxing Day - the adulation will raise the roof. But there are other times when he badly lets his team mates and supporters down, and I mean badly.

I'd love it work out for Gareth at Widnes, but the odds, I fear, are against it.

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What are his chances of returning to Wigan next year and more importantly, would the fans welcome him back.

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Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "What are his chances of returning to Wigan next year .'"

Somewhere between "little" and "none" I would have thought.
Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "would the fans welcome him back.'"

Genuinely contrite & deducted significant wonga for every penalty he gave away, then maybe. As has been said umpteen times, he's a damned good player, but carries a bag full of brain-farts with him every time he gets on the park.

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Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "What are his chances of returning to Wigan next year and more importantly, would the fans welcome him back.'"


That all depends on how well Wigan do this year.

They still hold Hock's registration, so I suppose, if the whole season goes belly-up, they may feel they have no option but to recall him. But IL doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who makes U-turns easily.

As for the fans, they'll cheer whoever wears Cherry and White - to a point. When Hock got suspended for the drug business, many wanted him sacked, but with one or two exceptions, they celebrated when he returned ... until he started fouling up again, which is always the problem with Gareth. Brilliance and idiocy go hand in hand.

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