I said when they started up that it would turn sour.

The club should kill them off now before they bring shame to your club

Really? I've NEVER experienced that in the 20 years that I've been watching football.

BTW, I'm not defending the Brigantes here I'm defending the reputation of Wigan Athletic fans.

You haven't? It's common place across the country. Often, coaches are made to pull up out of town where police hand out match tickets to make sure the right people are getting them. Then they are escorted into the place they are playing and heavily policed to make sure there are no clashes with home fans.

I've been made to pull over on a coach and then given an escort all together to the ground at some places but I've never had the police hand me my match ticket. I've never been "treated like cattle" either even when I've caught the train to matches. I've even stayed over in places and been out around town drinking with no problems at all.

Maybe that proves my point slightly that Wigan Athletic fans have no such reputation as some on here would like to believe?

They don't take any fans away, joke club.

Do you remember When it was either Rangers or Celtic played Man Utd in a champions league match about two years ago? All away fans had to travel to the DW stadium "Home of Wigan Athletic" where they got searched, given a ticket as pre-ordered and placed on coaches supplied by police.

I do yes. It definitely exists I'm aware of that. I've just never experienced it. (maybe due to the small crowds usually involved)

I also remember being unable to drink in my seat at the Grand Final because of fighting in the previous two finals.

Rugby League fans are not all angels. There are numerous issues so stop putting the blame at the feet of football every time something goes wrong is my point. I remember trouble at the Wire/Hull game a few years back and straight away the excuse was that it was Hull City fans.

Conroy is defending Athletic not football, i have a few friends watch Athletic and they rarely see trouble.
Athletic are not a greatly supported club and in the grand scheme of things a fairly new team.

Aside to that, i've seen worse at football, i saw a couple of Barnsley fans a couple of years ago getting the living bejesus kicked out of them by about 12 QPR fans in Acton, that was unsavory and unwarranted.

Correct

There are parts of the football experience that I wish were more like RL, but as I said above RL fans seem too quick to blame everything on football fans as opposed to admitting there's a problem.

The issue is not the Warriors fans, the latics fans, the wire fans or any sports club supporters. The problem lies within society today. These type of people live in every town and city in the UK! Rugby League as a "family" sport must work together to eradicate these scrotes from our great game.

It's nothing to do with football fans, but FWIW I have seen Latics fans herded outside a train station and escorted to an away ground - totally irrelevant to what's being discussed mind, but it has happened.

Everything seemed to change around the end of the 2011 season. The playoff game against Saints at Widnes was one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced, even though we lost. There was a great momentum with the Brigante thing and most fans were buying into it.

Something changed in 2012 and not for the better. Sad really and a missed opportunity to continue great work.

Spot on. I think a few of the older guys who were running it have left the group and the younger idiotic, hooligan wannabes have brought the whole ultra idea up. Whenever I see them all together, I never see some of the older guys that use to be running it when everyone was buying into it towards the end of the 2011 season.