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Makes sense to give Fielden a run out. Despite it being a Saints derby, the game in effect is a nothing match.
A fit effect Fielden is something which will enhance the team, lets see if that's what we've got.

Our front row isn't all that, Wire always totally dominate us. Mossop must receive an award for the most unimproved player this year after starting with so much vigor has really stopped improving. Lima has been as good as always-but he's off. Prescott can go for me, always injured, often loses the ball on impact, all in all-not good enough.
Eric, after a controversial signing is looking determined and full of fight. For me, if Fielden can find his form he'd be in.

Dudson is the one to watch, was excellent before he was injured
Flower also has bags of potential as a hard working prop or 13.

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Its the same situation where Saints found themselves with Paul Sculthorpe. Sculthorpe along with Farrell the best Loose Forwards in the British game in the Super League Era. Sculthorpe found himself constantly injured for the best part of 3 years and never came back the same player. Infact he became a passenger apart from one great performance against Brisbane Broncos in 2007. Im afraid to say Fielden has become the same as Sculthorpe after years of constant hammering and no doubt playing 80 minutes week in week out for Bradford never helped him infact its shortenend his career. My arguement is why the hell should Fielden get the chance to stake a claim for a position in the Wigan side when your other props have done the hardwork and youve finished top? If I was one of the props dropped I would be seriously p****d off.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan " Despite it being a Saints derby, the game in effect is a nothing match.
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No Wigan vs Saints game is a nothing match. Saints need to win to finish 3rd and Im sure Wigan will be wanting to stop Saints from achieving that.

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Quote: on_the_charge " If I was one of the props dropped I would be seriously p****d off.'"


Good, that is exactly what is required as some props in the current team need a heavy kick up the booty to be reminded that they need to perform. Over the last couple of months how many of the Wigan front row have performed to a good standard........

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Makes sense to give Fielden a run out. Despite it being a Saints derby, the game in effect is a nothing match.
A fit effect Fielden is something which will enhance the team, lets see if that's what we've got.

Our front row isn't all that, Wire always totally dominate us. Mossop must receive an award for the most unimproved player this year after starting with so much vigor has really stopped improving. Lima has been as good as always-but he's off. Prescott can go for me, always injured, often loses the ball on impact, all in all-not good enough.
Eric, after a controversial signing is looking determined and full of fight. For me, if Fielden can find his form he'd be in.

Dudson is the one to watch, was excellent before he was injured
Flower also has bags of potential as a hard working prop or 13.'"



After seeing many posters saying this over the last 3 months or so and always wanting to respond I've finally Bit!

You do realise that he's played 28/29/30 games a season for the last 3 season out of a maximum of 33/34/35 he could have played!
That means he's missed on average about 5 games per year over the full season for the last 3 seasons which any of those may/may not have been down to injury i.e he may have been rested/rotated for some of these?

He's had a Bad trot this year (I put a lot of it down to him missing pre-season due to the off season operation he had) no doubt, but hardly reson to get rid IMO!

I understand if people want to get rid if they don't rate him, but basing it on 1 bad season in terms of injuries I think is a bit OT.

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Good luck to him

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you don't get rid of players because they have one season where they suffer a few injuries, think we might have learned that lesson the hard way when we released Sean Long after his knee injury..........

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Quote: Jukesays "After seeing many posters saying this over the last 3 months or so and always wanting to respond I've finally Bit!

You do realise that he's played 28/29/30 games a season for the last 3 season out of a maximum of 33/34/35 he could have played!
That means he's missed on average about 5 games per year over the full season for the last 3 seasons which any of those may/may not have been down to injury i.e he may have been rested/rotated for some of these?

He's had a Bad trot this year (I put a lot of it down to him missing pre-season due to the off season operation he had) no doubt, but hardly reson to get rid IMO!

I understand if people want to get rid if they don't rate him, but basing it on 1 bad season in terms of injuries I think is a bit OT.'"



Justa matter of opinion who each person likes or dislikes. Regardless of his appearances I just don't rate him at the standard I would expect to see at Wigan.

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Quote: on_the_charge "No Wigan vs Saints game is a nothing match. Saints need to win to finish 3rd and Im sure Wigan will be wanting to stop Saints from achieving that.'"


Why what does that get Wigan? A sense of 'well done' heres another one over the old enemy? Sorry but I'm a realist, doing what we can and being smart to win the GF is far more important.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Justa matter of opinion who each person likes or dislikes. Regardless of his appearances I just don't rate him at the standard I would expect to see at Wigan.'"



Now we are another twelve months on, do you still feel like that about Hansen?

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Quote: MattyB "Now we are another twelve months on, do you still feel like that about Hansen?'"


Firstly I don't know if this is a dig or a genuine question. I feel pretty similar he's a good player, not a world beater, no Hock or Hoffman per say. I think he does a job, been off the boil in the last few weeks.

I feel in time the likes of Jack Hughes will surpass him.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Firstly I don't know if this is a dig or a genuine question. I feel pretty similar he's a good player, not a world beater, no Hock or Hoffman per say. I think he does a job, been off the boil in the last few weeks.

I feel in time the likes of Jack Hughes will surpass him.'"



It's not a dig mate. Just wondering.

I agree he's been off the boil these past few week's, but the majority of the team aren't clicking which won't help.

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Quote: exiled Warrior "Good, that is exactly what is required as some props in the current team need a heavy kick up the booty to be reminded that they need to perform. Over the last couple of months how many of the Wigan front row have performed to a good standard........'"


Totally agree, despite us being top of the league, players looking over their shoulders, especially the props, is a good thing. I wish Stuart well, it can't have been an easy time for him.

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Totally agree, despite us being top of the league, players looking over their shoulders is a good thing. I wish Stuart well, it can't have been an easy time for him.'"


To be fair he brought it on himself, if he had stuck to plan he would have been back playing months ago, but he had to be the big I AM and do more in training than he should have done resulting in another injury, he can leave for me, too little too, god forbid some numpty gives him a new contract because he has one or two good games, we need younger fitter players in the squad even if they are 29 they still got 3 years on Stu

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Why what does that get Wigan? A sense of 'well done' heres another one over the old enemy? Sorry but I'm a realist, doing what we can and being smart to win the GF is far more important.'"


So just say that then?
Don't try and perpetuate an injury MYTH. (TBH I think people are influenced about Prescotts injury history because of statements like "he's never fit" and "he's always injured" and assume he's been like this for the last 4 years! Rather than look at the Facts of the situation).

If you think this seasons injury problems are a good enough reason then fair enough that's your opinion.
If you think he's not good enough (And it would be inbteresting to note is Error rate/Penalty count to other SL front line props over that same period wouldn't it?) then fair enough.

If you think that Hansen is a waste of space (Thanks for that Matty, I'd forgot who it was who came up with that earlier in the year!) then fair enough icon_wink.gif

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