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Quote: gerr'emonside "Reality is its probably not even much of a money spinner...bet the aggrigate gates for the 8 team play off are roughly the same as they were for the old top 5 as more would turn out for more meaningful matches!'"


It's nothing to do with attendances.

It's about viewing figures and schedules for Sky.

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Quote: Bill Sonny "why wouldn't he come back fit? he's due back in about a month, more than enough time to be fit'"


He may get a set back like several of our players seem to do these days. We may rush him back for a big game like we did with Charnley in the cup.

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Quote: Conroy "Our form since losing Tommy has been awful and there's no guarantee he'll come back fit if he comes back at all.'"


Funny that, reminds me of a conversation when he got injured

Quote: Conroy "TL hasn't missed a single game yet and you're taking about how well you've coped! '"


Quote: Conroy "Watch us cope without Tommy though
TL is a great player and any team would miss him badly - and Wigan are IMO. His experience and calm head would have been huge in the cup semi and you're a FAR better chance of taking out the GF if he comes back fit.

And despite that being the case, I hope he does come back fit - I have a lot of respect for him and he deserves better than his career in the UK ending through injury.

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Quote: Conroy "Saints and Leeds are coming into form at the right time again.

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Quote: Conroy "Our form since losing Tommy has been awful and there's no guarantee he'll come back fit if he comes back at all.'"


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Quote: Jukesays "25/06/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 54 v 12 Widnes Vikings DW Stadium 13445 Report
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Losing to any team you play that isn't in the bottom 4? Dreamland!!!

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I wouldnt say we were playing well. We've been very lucky with our run of fixtures imo.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Losing to any team you play that isn't in the bottom 4? Dreamland!!!'"


just the way the fixtures have fallen, but we've battered the rest of the league since the start of the season so no worries eh (wire apart, obviously)

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Can you imagine if formula one had a play off system? Say Alonso finishes first after a full season & Button finishes 10th enough to qualify for a final race and then Button wins it to be the best driver for the year. It wouldn't work.
Mixing a league with knock out works with champions league footy & american football because they have the strength and depth and the money to back the sport. It it also suited for expansion, and the champions league may probably create a european super league in a few years time.
It doesn't work with rugby.This is an important time in our sport, we need to sustain not expand. We've been concentrating on expansion for too long, its fools gold. The real gold is in the M62 corriodor for now.
I liked the premiership system, I enjoyed the 96 and 97 finals when we wern't at our best but we ended the season with a trophy and had some bragging rights. Those finals complemented SL and ended the season with a bang similar to a SL grand final. It was 3 good trophies with a relegation system and it worked.

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Quote: Conroy "I wouldnt say we were playing well. We've been very lucky with our run of fixtures imo.'"



Yeh but Saints where hardly running red hot against Widnes a few weeks ago. Still you pick up the wins and keep going forward.

I think the league placings are pretty much nailed down now as far as the top 8 go. I think Saints will finish above Catalan, but whether we can catch Warrington will depend on this game next Monday.

If we win it then I would expect Warrington to lose to Wigan too, backing up for a Friday night game. They then have London before the CC final, and London had a good result against Catalan, but even so Warrington should win it.

Huddersfield well, that maybe a CC hangover game Wire could struggle with and then they have Widnes last who for some reason have started to play better now they can't make the top 8 at all.

I give Saints 1 in 3 chance of getting 2nd spot.

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IF the final eight were to remain the same and IF Catalans lose against Wigan in the first play off match. Who would they play in France in the second round?

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Looking at the top 9 teams atm

1 Wigan 36
2 Warrington 33
3 St Helens 30
4 Catalan Dragons 30
5 Leeds 26
6 Hull 26
7 Huddersfield 22
8 Hull KR 21
9 Bradford 17

5 matches left, I can't see Wire winning two more matches than ourselves as I can't see them beating us at the HJ especially a week before the CC final. If Hull pull their finger out they could potentially be 5th. Also Saints and CAts could finish 2nd if Wire implode with the CC. Could be an interesting 6 weeks or so with regarding the table. FWIW I think it will remain the same top 8 positions maybe Bulls finishing 8th instead of HKR, but it will depend on what happens with the Bulls.

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Quote: fatbaztod100 "IF the final eight were to remain the same and IF Catalans lose against Wigan in the first play off match. Who would they play in France in the second round?'"


The highest placed winner out of 5 v 8 and 6 v 7.

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Quote: fatbaztod100 "Looking at the top 9 teams atm

1 Wigan 36
2 Warrington 33
3 St Helens 30
4 Catalan Dragons 30
5 Leeds 26
6 Hull 26
7 Huddersfield 22
8 Hull KR 21
9 Bradford 17

5 matches left, I can't see Wire winning two more matches than ourselves as I can't see them beating us at the HJ especially a week before the CC final. If Hull pull their finger out they could potentially be 5th. Also Saints and CAts could finish 2nd if Wire implode with the CC. Could be an interesting 6 weeks or so with regarding the table. FWIW I think it will remain the same top 8 positions maybe Bulls finishing 8th instead of HKR, but it will depend on what happens with the Bulls.'"


neither can i, but that'll have something to do with us playing you two weeks before the final.

If you think we're going to implode, you really haven't been paying any attention to us this season, we've not been going hell for leather like last year, we've essentially got two teams that we roll out depending on that opposition, enabling us to rest key players.

We're not worried about blowing our wad too soon.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "neither can i, but that'll have something to do with us playing you two weeks before the final.

If you think we're going to implode, you really haven't been paying any attention to us this season, we've not been going hell for leather like last year, we've essentially got two teams that we roll out depending on that opposition, enabling us to rest key players.

We're not worried about blowing our wad too soon.'"


Hate to say it but I think you'll do the double (not bothered about you winning the cup, in fact I hope you stuff Leeds) but I am bothered about the Grand Final.
Wigan have been poor since the win at Headingley and it's going to take a massive turn around in form to even reach Old Trafford. In my opinion, the form we're showing at the moment, I can't see us holding on to top spot, which is gutting considering how well we've played for the majority of the season.

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