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| So Goulding s the new Mathers by the look of things , i think Goulding s the least our problems going of yesterdays overall TEAM performance .
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| Don't think we should be 'knee jerking' here with Goulding he started life as a centre under Nobby and looked a good young prospect, lets give him a few more games at least to prove his worth [or not!]
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "We cant afford our centre to be blowing overlap chances when we have got one of our most explosive players outside him. Goulding shot out the line a couple of times and nearly got caught out too. I know its only one game and almost everybody was crap but he looked out of his depth.'"
Which overlap chances??? There was never a time in the whole game when we had clear overlaps. They always had cover coming across. The ball was too slow away from acting halfback, or the pass so poor it was halting the back-lines momentum. If anything Carmont and Richards looked like carthorses, not Goulding.
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| Quote: Ovavoo "Which overlap chances??? There was never a time in the whole game when we had clear overlaps. They always had cover coming across. The ball was too slow away from acting halfback, or the pass so poor it was halting the back-lines momentum. If anything Carmont and Richards looked like carthorses, not Goulding.'"
On 3 occassions he had chance to pass it out out to Charnley but instead took the tackle. Two of them occasions had he done so Charnley had a break on down the line with his pace. To be fair to Goulding, Carmont blew at least 2 on the other side as well.
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| Good to see it's only taken one game to sort out this season's whipping boy.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Good to see it's only taken one game to sort out this season's whipping boy.'"
To be fair i do think this thread is unfair. At least ten that played yesterday deserve their own thread if Goulding does. Theres a few players who need to have a good look at themselves if yesterday is the best they can give.
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| You could always sign Keith Senior.
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "On 3 occassions he had chance to pass it out out to Charnley but instead took the tackle. Two of them occasions had he done so Charnley had a break on down the line with his pace. To be fair to Goulding, Carmont blew at least 2 on the other side as well.'"
There were never 3 occasions that there were clear overlaps. The had that side covered pretty well for almost the whole game. Bearing in mind that a defending player can allow himself to be further inside of his man because the touchline acts like an extra defender there were no clear cut opportunities where there was an overlap. The tackle count also has to be taken into account, because going wide too early can lead to a turnover of the ball.
There weren't any clear cut opportunities that I could see.
Some people seem to think that if the winger has a few yards of space out wide the centre has to pass the ball, regardless of how easy it would be for the defence to cover across and dump the player into touch.
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| I think we need to give him time & a chance. Not writing him off after one game. He needs to build his confendince back up, and perhaps he will fight for his place with gelling
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "There were never 3 occasions that there were clear overlaps. The had that side covered pretty well for almost the whole game. Bearing in mind that a defending player can allow himself to be further inside of his man because the touchline acts like an extra defender there were no clear cut opportunities where there was an overlap. The tackle count also has to be taken into account, because going wide too early can lead to a turnover of the ball.
There weren't any clear cut opportunities that I could see.
Some people seem to think that if the winger has a few yards of space out wide the centre has to pass the ball, regardless of how easy it would be for the defence to cover across and dump the player into touch.'"
I never said there were 3 clear overlaps but 3 occasions he could of passed to Charnley to have a run at them.
It depends what you define as clear. Two occasions if Goulding had passed to Charnley he would of been past his man and down the line imo. The pass had to be quick but Goulding didnt pass it.
Im not making a scapegoat of him but just commenting on his performance. Like if there were threads for other players i would do the same.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Good to see it's only taken one game to sort out this season's whipping boy.'"
I'm sticking to my guns and only booing Lauaki
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| Quote: Pemps "I'm sticking to my guns and only booing Lauaki'"
Don't you mean Feka Pryce?
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| Goulding is the least of our worries at the min. I cant see even after the first game that were good enough! A bold statement but i think were short of cover in the halves and at 9, which are the game winners. All that we look to have a pack that could do with stripping a few pounds.
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| Crazy stuff that people are having a go at him already. I thought he was pretty solid in defence with us not looking to have frailties down that side as bad as last year.
In attack he caused some problems and even though he probably could have done better on occasion he was far from on his own in that. I thought Carmont got some better ball then Goulding but did less with it although Richards didn't help him much having one of his poorest games in a long while.
Goulding will be this years whipping boy along with McIlorum (who also played ok and better then a lot of the others).
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| I don't think it would have mattered who was in the centre position, the ball wasn't reaching them enough. The only opportunity I thought Goulding "bombed" was one in the 2nd half when he should have dummied and gone himself but he gave it Charnley who was well covered. IIRC Lockers barged over from the PTB anyway. FWIW I do think Gelling will get that spot at some point this season, he looks more natural in that position than Goulding ever has.
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