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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled. For 27 - 0 you get a trophy For 75 - 0 you get sod all. Wigan had eight in a row Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg



Quote: wigan pie man "Rads v Bradford 2,000, but strictly speaking, that didnt win it...Faz kicking the goal won it.
Faz JNR last good friday...more sweet as it was against the enemy.

and........Mick Sullivan @ 1959 ish.........last minute in corner v leeds ? in the cup.
i was a small boy in the hen pen.......happy days
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That was my first thought. Wigan were losing 9 -11 and Mick Sullivan shot in at the corner. Punchie Griffiths kicked the goal off the touchline to give Wigan a 14 - 11 win. I was on the Duggie side at the Kop end that day.

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There can't be a more last gasp win than Joe Lydons 80th minute drop goal in the 1993 Challenge Cup Q/F at Halifax to win the game 18-19

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The Good Friday derby this year. Shaking like a leaf.

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[quote="Rob Wire":qtnftxzx]WIGAN ARE BACK to what exactly ? Oh i see what you mean, back to beating weakened teams. How many key players did we have missing in the cup ? Just remind us again how many key players did Saints have missing in last years grand final ? When did you actually last beat a strong Saints or Warringtom team ? Don't include beating us last year at the HJ, we had a lead of around 14pts and were cruising then we lost both Briers and Monaghan, another example of Wigan capitalising on other teams misfortunes.[/quote:qtnftxzx] [color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx][list:qtnftxzx]Gotta' love 'em.[/list:u:qtnftxzx][/color:qtnftxzx] [color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx]"You can shove yer f****** England up yer a***"[/color:qtnftxzx]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51917.jpg



The Good Friday game last season. Simply because my girlfriend (a saints fan) was sat at the side of me, all smug because we were losing.

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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]:



Quote: Odem "I know people talk about 'wide to west' as one of the greatest last minute wins and rightly so... but we have had some quality games which we have stolen right at the death.

Which one is your favourite and why?

For me it is between 3 games.

Bradford at home 2000 - Kris Radlinski scored as the last second of the game went by. I was only 10. That game seriously got me into supporting Wigan. The atmosphere leaving the ground was special with everyone beeping their horns.

Bradford away 2007 - Maybe not won in the last few seconds but the comeback which went before hand made Pats dropgoal even more special. I have never seen Wigan fans celebrate like that. Barrett was sensational.

Saints at home 2011 - Last gasp try from Farrell. Loved it. What an atmosphere at the end!'"


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The two bradford ones edge it for me over the saints game though due to the significance of the games.

The bradford one at home is probably the best game ive been to purely for the drama and excitement and the fact that whoever won would take top....to have the drama and exitement of a final second try, only to realise faz still had to kick the goal meant there was nothing quite like it....beats the wide to west moment for me or the other two purely for that.

Then the bradford play offs game would have to be up there as it was win or bust, and i nearly walked out after 55 minutes when we went 30-6 down, yet as soon as we got a try you could almost sense something special - amazing game.

Saints probably a distant 3rd simply because it was only local pride resting on it.

I think we've also had two smash and grabs at leeds in recent years (2 of the many 22-18s IIRC) which are also up there in all time greatest games.

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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]:



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Quote: nickcat0 "The challenge cup semi final in (I think) 1990 or 1992 at Old Trafford against Saints.

The game was locked at 8-8, when Hanley did one of his weaving runs, and handed the ball to Andy Goodway, who went in under the posts.

As per usual, the Saints fans swore blind the pass was forward (it wasn't) and still do to this day, which makes the win even more sweet.'"


It was 1990, and the score was 14-14 ............ if you can't even get those basic facts correct, how do you expect us to trust your judgement on whether the pass was forward or not.

Fortunately, if you can be bothered to get out your old video tapes (yes, the match was before the invention of dvd, kids ) ; then the pass can be proved to be a forward pass.

In one of the few facts you recalled correctly, the match was at Old Trafford, and the soccer markings were still visible.......... Hanley released the ball about one yard outside the soccer penalty area, and as Goodway caught it, his feet are on the line marking the edge of the box, and the ball is in front of him (i.e. inside the box) .......... hence the ball must have travelled forward.'"




Momentum rule www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

Its essentially about whether the ball is passed backwards relative to the travelling player which it was in this case as you can see by the fact hanley is still a good 2 yards infront of goodway receiving.

The video above also shows perfectly why a lot of passes can look more obviously forward even when they're not, if the momentum of the passer is suddenly stopped upon releasing the ball by a tackler
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Quote: nickcat0 "The challenge cup semi final in (I think) 1990 or 1992 at Old Trafford against Saints.

The game was locked at 8-8, when Hanley did one of his weaving runs, and handed the ball to Andy Goodway, who went in under the posts.

As per usual, the Saints fans swore blind the pass was forward (it wasn't) and still do to this day, which makes the win even more sweet.'"


It was 1990, and the score was 14-14 ............ if you can't even get those basic facts correct, how do you expect us to trust your judgement on whether the pass was forward or not.

Fortunately, if you can be bothered to get out your old video tapes (yes, the match was before the invention of dvd, kids ) ; then the pass can be proved to be a forward pass.

In one of the few facts you recalled correctly, the match was at Old Trafford, and the soccer markings were still visible.......... Hanley released the ball about one yard outside the soccer penalty area, and as Goodway caught it, his feet are on the line marking the edge of the box, and the ball is in front of him (i.e. inside the box) .......... hence the ball must have travelled forward.'"




Momentum rule www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

Its essentially about whether the ball is passed backwards relative to the travelling player which it was in this case as you can see by the fact hanley is still a good 2 yards infront of goodway receiving.

The video above also shows perfectly why a lot of passes can look more obviously forward even when they're not, if the momentum of the passer is suddenly stopped upon releasing the ball by a tackler


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Notice how neither him or Frenchie say it's forward? Both Saints fans.

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Quote: 21-12 "Barrett was sensational.'"


First time for everything.'"



No mate, but I also haven't forgotten the majority of games when he was uninspiring and absent. Yes ok, the players around him may not have been the best, but that's no excuse for a so-called God as most Wigan fans have painted him.

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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]:



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Quote: Conroy "Barrett was sensational.'"


First time for everything.'"


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Quote: nickcat0 "
Quote: nickcat0 "The challenge cup semi final in (I think) 1990 or 1992 at Old Trafford against Saints.

The game was locked at 8-8, when Hanley did one of his weaving runs, and handed the ball to Andy Goodway, who went in under the posts.

As per usual, the Saints fans swore blind the pass was forward (it wasn't) and still do to this day, which makes the win even more sweet.'"


It was 1990, and the score was 14-14 ............ if you can't even get those basic facts correct, how do you expect us to trust your judgement on whether the pass was forward or not.

Fortunately, if you can be bothered to get out your old video tapes (yes, the match was before the invention of dvd, kids ) ; then the pass can be proved to be a forward pass.

In one of the few facts you recalled correctly, the match was at Old Trafford, and the soccer markings were still visible.......... Hanley released the ball about one yard outside the soccer penalty area, and as Goodway caught it, his feet are on the line marking the edge of the box, and the ball is in front of him (i.e. inside the box) .......... hence the ball must have travelled forward.'"


oooOOOOOoooooo! Touched a nerve, did we? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Funnily enough, I watched this match as a neutral, back then I alternated between watching Saints, Wigan and Widnes ........... and as Goodway was my favourite player I was delighted this was awarded. It wasn't until 1993 that I decided to pin my colours to a single team.'"


Oh god, she gets worse.

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Good Friday, still got it on sky+ and watch the last 5-10 mins regularly.

Bradford away - my dad wanted us to go and I said no, think we'll get beat, I'll watch it on telly (shame). At half time I thought, at well at least I've saved some cash, at full time I was thinking "I can't believe I didn't go". Thats the only game where as soon as it had finished, I just pressed play and watched it again immediately afterwards thinking, did this just happen. (Sadly I deleted this off sky!)

Another one that sort of sticks in the memory for me for some reason and perhaps some of the older fans is a 15-14 victory away at Fulham in the early 80's. Colin Whitfield won the game with a last gasp drop goal at Craven Cottage.

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