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Hope he stays with you, if not I hope he's hanging on for the NRL TV deal to go through and goes to Oz.

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Personally I'd sooner Sam go to the NRL than Union, if that's the choice presented.
Somewhere in this there is a 'nod' to League over Union, we are clearly developing better players in our code if Union feel the need to lure them over with big bucks.

By the next RUWC we could potentially be looking at:

15 S Tomkins
14 C Ashton
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12 Probably targeted another League bod by then
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Well done Union, you clearly are developing your own talent with such success.

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In relation to George Ford who will probably play at 10 for England no doubt, there was this little snippet the other dayThis award for George is also a great advert for player development in England. He has come up through the age grades and is playing Aviva Premiership rugby with Leicester Tigers, a great testament to George, and the development work going on in the Clubs'"


Full of **** comes to mind, union is dead on it's knees in terms of producing it's own quality backs at any level.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Hope he stays with you, if not I hope he's hanging on for the NRL TV deal to go through and goes to Oz.'"

I'd much rather see Sam play in the NRL it's a great league to watch and would full realise his ability. It's vey disappointing as a Wigan fan being resigned to losing him though.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: cadoo "And neglecting one of the most consistent halfbacks in the NRL - Gareth Widdop!


Crazy isn't it?

Starting 6 all season for the team which finished top in the NRL under probably the second best coach in the world.

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Quote: Odem "Crazy isn't it?

Starting 6 all season for the team which finished top in the NRL under probably the second best coach in the world.'"


Kevin Sinfield ---> icon_kiss.gif <--- Steve McNamara

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Personally I'd sooner Sam go to the NRL than Union, if that's the choice presented.
Somewhere in this there is a 'nod' to League over Union, we are clearly developing better players in our code if Union feel the need to lure them over with big bucks.

By the next RUWC we could potentially be looking at

Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?

The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?

The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"

Add Riki Flutey and Dylan Hartley to that list, the RFU is more of a UN based rugby team.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?

The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"


Normally once they get a bad injury going off that list!

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?

The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"

and louis Anderson could be added to the list if his reported future french plans are to be believed.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Personally I'd sooner Sam go to the NRL than Union, if that's the choice presented.
Somewhere in this there is a 'nod' to League over Union, we are clearly developing better players in our code if Union feel the need to lure them over with big bucks.

By the next RUWC we could potentially be looking at

They don't need to, why bother when you can pick up superbly fit and well drilled youngsters from RL for tuppence ha'penny?

They will use RL as a production line and their grip on the media will turn this into a positive for them through the usual pro-RU propaganda. icon_twisted.gif

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Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.

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Quote: DANN "Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"


neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad......

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Quote: Pieman "neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad......'"


He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.

Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully

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Quote: DANN "Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"


All you need to do is boot it out on the full from F/B in yawnion, I'm sure he'd manage.

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