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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "Dave, Dave, Dave you really must think these things through. How would such a proposal help Wakefield et al? but I suspect your first objection is where it is all at for you. The magic level playing field and I don't even think that is as black and white as you suggest.
I think the time has past where we can limit what top players earn while we wait for the likes of Wakefield to get their act together so they are on a par financially with the like of Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Wire and Hull (with their new owner). Some clubs have been given literally decades to improve and fail to do so year on year even with the salary cap.
The alternative is to let inflation inflate away the wages of our players to the extent the sport will have to revert to being a semi-pro sport. It is either that or let them earn more money where they can.
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""well there would be a link between the club and the sponsor so that wouldnt be acceptable but if say, Asda decided to sponsor Sam Tomkins and pay him £200k/year for promotional work then i dont see the problem'"
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""well there would be a link between the club and the sponsor so that wouldnt be acceptable but if say, Asda decided to sponsor Sam Tomkins and pay him £200k/year for promotional work then i dont see the problem'"
As long as that's the deal then there shouldn't be a problem.
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| Quote: Pemps "As long as that's the deal then there shouldn't be a problem.'"
Quite apart from: why the hell would anyone want to sponsor a RL player?
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| Quote: cod'ead "Quite apart from
Because I bet the general public in Wigan could name more Wigan rugby players than Athletic players.
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| Quote: inside_man "Because I bet the general public in Wigan could name more Wigan rugby players than Athletic players.'"
So how much do you think that's worth? Any business would want to see a tangible return on its investment, I think you're grossly overestimating the value of the RL £, whether in Wigan or anywhere else in the country. Asda has previously been mentioned, the benefits they could derive from individual player sponsorship would be so miniscule (if any existed at all), to be unaccountable. That would be reflected in the money offered, it would make no discernible difference to a player's remuneration.
The suggestion of individual player sponsorship would be viewed as what it is, a poor attempt to circumvent the salary cap. The only businesses interested in such a scheme would be non-publicly quoted, run by individuals on some sort of vanity trip.
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| Quote: cod'ead "So how much do you think that's worth? Any business would want to see a tangible return on its investment, I think you're grossly overestimating the value of the RL £, whether in Wigan or anywhere else in the country. Asda has previously been mentioned, the benefits they could derive from individual player sponsorship would be so miniscule (if any existed at all), to be unaccountable. That would be reflected in the money offered, it would make no discernible difference to a player's remuneration.
The suggestion of individual player sponsorship would be viewed as what it is, a poor attempt to circumvent the salary cap. The only businesses interested in such a scheme would be non-publicly quoted, run by individuals on some sort of vanity trip.'"
I remember ads in RL magazines by mizunu with Inga and Botica featuring on them. Tomkins, Sinfield, Roby, Briscoe... All marketable lads. Gillette, Carneige(sp), Kellogs, Iron-Bru... All big names that have been involved in RL. These lads start endorsing those products locally and things grow from there for the next generation of Tomkins, Sinfields, Robys, Briscoes, etc.
Alternatively we could just leave things as they are.
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| Quote: Pemps "I remember ads in RL magazines by mizunu with Inga and Botica featuring on them. Tomkins, Sinfield, Roby, Briscoe... All marketable lads. Gillette, Carneige(sp), Kellogs, Iron-Bru... All big names that have been involved in RL. These lads start endorsing those products locally and things grow from there for the next generation of Tomkins, Sinfields, Robys, Briscoes, etc.
Alternatively we could just leave things as they are.'"
Frontline Bathrooms Charity Calender featuring nekkid SL stars in't bath/showers for the ladies?
Sell um in shed loads,
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| Quote: THE HINDLEY WARRIOR "I think you will find that Andrew Clarke [Phil`s brother] was the prime mover in JT`s switch to RU.
JT apparently signed a contract with James Grant Sports Management in a move that saw his agent, Andy Clarke, become a consultant for the London-based firm.
And so RL is now just like football - Agents offering their clients to other clubs, even though they may be under contract, just so the Agent can earn more commission.
Clarke was instrumental in getting JT his 5 year contract with Wigan, and earning commission in the process, and now gets more commission by selling JT to Saracens and also earns another deal by becoming a consultant with the sports management agency.
Nice work if you can get it, Clarke, although I do not blame JT for wanting to significantly improve his earnings - after all, most of us would do it if we had the opportunity.'"
Hang on a minute. Where is the official statement that JT has actually switched?
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| Quote: cod'ead "So how much do you think that's worth? Any business would want to see a tangible return on its investment, I think you're grossly overestimating the value of the RL £, whether in Wigan or anywhere else in the country. Asda has previously been mentioned, the benefits they could derive from individual player sponsorship would be so miniscule (if any existed at all), to be unaccountable. That would be reflected in the money offered, it would make no discernible difference to a player's remuneration.'"
So why do the Tote (based in Wigan), Applicado-fs and Heinz bother sponsoring Wigan? Why does any company associate itself with ant RL club? ISC are obviously off their heads sponsoring Leeds as according to you it is a complete waste of time.
And local sponsorship by national names is not new. Companies know if they are associated with the towns successful sporting side thy benefit. Why else would they be doing it? There is absolutely no reason why individual player sponsorship could not provide a boost to player earnings. At the moment there is no incentive to even try to do this but any agent worth his salt would be off like a shot marketing his players if players were allowed to earn money in this way.
Quote: cod'ead "The suggestion of individual player sponsorship would be viewed as what it is, a poor attempt to circumvent the salary cap. The only businesses interested in such a scheme would be non-publicly quoted, run by individuals on some sort of vanity trip.'"
Rubbish. Removing player sponsorship from a players salary cap value calculation is a simple way to let players earn more money without increasing in the salary cap. For some reason you don't like the idea of players earning more money and are jumping through hoops to try and find objections which is very strange IMO.
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