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Not seen the Wellens try in the 2nd half again, but it looked a very clear knock on by Roby the play before that never got picked up.

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Quote: CM Punk "Not seen the Wellens try in the 2nd half again, but it looked a very clear knock on by Roby the play before that never got picked up.'"


Watch it then. Roby attempted to pass the ball it hit Tomkins and Saints regained possession.

At first I was screaming for six more tackles but on reflection it did not appear that Tomkins played at the ball so play on was the correct call.

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Quote: Donkey OTay "You are joking? Cummins is No1 Saints fan? Is that what you are saying? Surely you know Cummins is an out and out mad Wigan fan. Ask anyone who knew him from when he was a teacher.

Or have I misunderstood your post?'"

Cumming is definitely not a Wigan fan. Years ago, when he was a teacher and was refereeing a school match, he told a neighbour of mine that he hated Wigan.
But the feeling is mutual.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Wasnt Ian Smith the VR?'"


No he apparently, couldnt make it so Stuart Cummings appointed himself for the game. How strange was that then? Ganson must have been busy elsewhere. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Rob Wire "Yes, it wasn't a try. His momentum had been stopped, if you watch closely he makes a 2nd effort by using his legs to drive himself over the line.

It should have been a pen to saints for a double movement.'"


True; you can see him digging his feet into the turf and stretching his legs to flip himself over.
The ref did get it wrong it was a pen to us.

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Quote: justarugbyfan "Which ever way you look at it, Cummings got that call wrong.

It should have either been a try, play the ball on the 10 or penalty for double movement. How in the world he came up with that call is beyond me - he was over the line?!!

I feel sorry for the full time refs if he's in charge icon_rolleyes.gif . I was responding to the rubbish that was being spouted by one of your fellow fans.

I also notice that Coley has not been charged by the RFL so they obviously see it in the same way as I did. I suggest you actually use your brain before posting such drivel and making yourself look stupid.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Famous "Yeah thats a great argument, well done
I wouldn't have bothered posting. These people aren't here for a sensible debate.

I've just watched the game again and the refereeing doesn't look any better. Nor do the silly comments from many non-Wigan fans on this thread. The Roby knock on before the Wellens try is still a knock on, the referee still allows Saints players to be a couple of yards offside again and again, the decision of the VR on the Charnley no-try remains baffling and the failure of the referee to use the yellow card at the end of the first or beginning of the second half after persistent professional fouls by Saints players remains staggering.

I don't blame Saints for taking advantage of weak refereeing, that's professionalism. I blame the referee for an absolutely diabolical performance.

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Quote: Deano G " the referee still allows Saints players to be a couple of yards offside again and again'"


You really believe that one side was offside more consistantly than the other?

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Quote: Deano G "Agreed.'"

Roby attempted to pass the ball it hit Tomkins and Saints regained possession.

At first I was screaming for six more tackles but on reflection it did not appear that Tomkins played at the ball so play on was the correct call.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: mistermoo "Roby attempted to pass the ball it hit Tomkins and Saints regained possession.

At first I was screaming for six more tackles but on reflection it did not appear that Tomkins played at the ball so play on was the correct call.'"


We'll just have to agree to differ on this one. I've watched it frame by frame and the ball goes forward from Roby, but I guess we're all entitled to our views.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Smurf "You really believe that one side was offside more consistantly than the other?'"


Yes. Leaving aside the point that it would be odd if the two sides complied with the rules to exactly the same extent, Saints definitely played the referee better than Wigan did.

Saints didn't "cheat", they just took advantage of weak refereeing.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Yes, it wasn't a try. His momentum had been stopped, if you watch closely he makes a 2nd effort by using his legs to drive himself over the line.

It should have been a pen to saints for a double movement.'"


Absolutely correct, ball carrying arm from elbow to hand hits the deck and is static.....tackled. Charnley does a leg drive and saints players roll him over on his back and ball goes over try line. A true reflection of the game should have been a scoreline of Saints 26 Wigan 6.

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