We have some great young backs coming through.

The likes of Sam, BJB, McGilvaray, Reed, Charnley, Briscoe, Widdop etc fill me with alot more confidence than the likes of Wellens, Gardner, Senior, Calderwood, Skyes, Smith etc did.

Still not anywhere near the freakish talents of Australia but its an improvement!

Just wish we had a decent coach.

1.tomkins
2.hall
3.reed
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.lomax
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.oloughlin
subs
14.robinson
15.carvell
16.morley
17.tomkins

Isnt Reed expected to to put himself forward for the Aussies so he can play for Queensland in SOO. And Lomax over Widdop. Widdop has been sensational for Melbourne in a team top of a far superior competition. Lomax is a good young player but not in the same league as Widdop

1. Tomkins - Obvious choice
2. Hall - His size and work-rate is a big asset. Good mobility and superb finisher.
3. Bridge - Need a bit of a poop house in the 3/4's who will ruffle feathers). Can cover the halves if needed.
4. Yeaman - Strong as an ox and punches well above his weight. Come good this year, very good.
5. Briscoe - A good long range try scorer. Defense is very good.
6. Widdop - Having a blinding season from what i gather. Eager to see him play as he is still an unknown quality by most i would imagine.
7. Lomax - Going to be a cracker. Get him blooded early against the big two.
8. Morley - Does exactly what it says on the tin.
9. Roby - See above
10. Carvell - Old school brute of a prop. Another who has realized his potential. Top, top player. In the starting squad to help "mix it" early doors.
11. Westwood - If fit?. No frills battering ram who love the rough stuff. Best 2nd rower in SL
12. Ellis - Again if fit.
13. Lockers - Mercurial passer, supremely consistent and a work horse in defense.

14. Mossop - Never seen him driven backwards, defensibly sound and good size. Deceptively quick also. Going to be world class in a few years
15. Tomkins J - Coming good in the and a proven test 2nd rower. Fantastic utility value. Not afraid to mix it either.
16. Graham - Would normally been a shoe in for a starting berth. Let him batter defenses after the initial tear up. A fresh Graham appearing off the bench would not be a nice sight for the opposition.
17. Hock - Say what you like the guy is a game winner. Offloading will be the name of the game against tight defenses. With Lomax and Sam in support, we have a very potent weapon at our disposal.

not sure on reed tbh ive heard and seen articles that hes playing for aussie then england but the last time which wasnt long ago was that hes decided to play for england and is expected to play in the 4 nations hopefully anyway, as for lomax over widdop i just feel widdop is very much a off the cuff player a talented one at that but lomax gives you that individual brilliance but is a creative and a better orginising half which england need.

Agree with all that except for Lomax, for me Danny Brough is a must, without him we dont have a kicker. Widdop doesnt kick for Melbourne due to Smith and Cronk, Lockers and Sam cant kick for toffee and im not so sure with Lomax's kicking game as it is. The last thing we need is a kick straight in the arms of Slater, he'd rip us to pieces. Lomax should possibly be on the bench, maybe in place of Joel or Hock, just to give us that extra spark or even as a rotation hooker

Utter tosh! I'm guessing you having watched much NRL this season!? Sam Tomkins and Gareth Widdop are head and shoulders the best 2 british backs available, anyone who doesnt have both in their team really dont know what they are talking about. Widdop has literally been one of the form players in the NRL at times this season and isnt outshone by players such as Cronk, Slater and Smith at the Storm. England no 6 this year and many more to come!

Unlucky for you he's the captain and a shoe in on current form

very true!
Tomkin, widdop and roby is a spine worth building a team around. A blend of power and speed to complement that structure should see us compete! But in reality as a nation we can't do the basics right let alone implementing and executing a well structured game plan.

Sam
Briscoe
Yeaman
Reed
Hall
Widdop
?
Graham
Roby
Morley
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers

Would possibly play Sinfield at 6 with Widdop at 7 for his kicking

Subs

Robinson
Carvell
Joel
Burgess if fit. If not then I'm not sure tbh.

I'd go....

1. Sam Tomkins
2. BJB
3. Ryan Atkins
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough (because we need a kicker)
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Adrian Morley
11. Ben Westwood
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gareth Carvell
15. Lee Mossop
16. Rob Burrow
17. Joel Tomkins or Jon Wilkin

Guys on the fringe like Ryan Hall, Luke Robinson, Ben Harrison.

I'm not too concerned about the 4 Nations like I have been in previous years, think we won't be embarrassed that much

1. Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Shenton -solid without being a game breaker
4. Atkins- Really come on this season
5. Briscoe

6. Widdop
7. Brough- Good kicking required

8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Westwood- If fit
12. Ellis- If fit
13. O'Loughin

14. Carvell
15. J.Tomkins
16. Mossop
17. Robinson

If Ellis and Westwood don't make it, Id push Wilkin and Sinfield in to the 17.

1.Sam Tomkins
2.BJB
3.Yeaman
4.Reed
5.Whiting
6.Widdop
7.Brough
8.Graham
9.Roby
10.Morley
11.Westwood
12.Ellis
13.Locky

14.Tomkins
15.Carvell
16. Burrow
17.Mossop

If Burgess is fit drop Morley to the bench and Mossop from the team.

I fully appreciate some will raise an eyebrow at Whiting on the wing but for me it is damage limitation at this stage. Charnley will open defences as will Briscoe but they are not in the same class as the NRL lads. Whiting is a very solid player i defence and also has a physical presence height etc, he may not be fashionable but for me he can finish a try and defend the threat the Aussies/Kiwis pose out wide better than any other British outside back.

If Reed chooses the Aussies bring in Bridge.

Thankfully we already have Widdop, but very little chance of adding Reed to the team. I think that the other Mr Burgess at Souths has shown some talent coming off the bench for the last few weeks to merit a seat on the bench.
However after seeing some of the Kiwis (Nightingale, Marshal etc) this weekend, I think we will be fighting for the position of third best team in the world, a distance behind Australia in number 2.