Suppose we'll have to settle for winning merchants instead!

As for Bailey and Leeds we seem to never be at our best against them because we allow ourselves to get involved with all the silly stuff tools like Bailey bring to the game.

There looks to be genuine bad feeling between the two sides.

We most certainly are !

Guys like Brian McTigue, Bill Ashurst and Kel Skerrett where worth the entrance fee alone for a bit of the biff.

Greg Dowling was no softie either, neither was Westie.

To be fair, Harrison Hansen gets in his fair share of scuffles. As does Fielden. And Joel Tomkins isn't afraid of coming forward.

I can only remember one scuffle that Hansen was involved in and that was between him and Darrell Griffin. It was a good one, but he's no fighter.

whilst its nice to see a good fight - discipine is key to winning rugby matches, and i would far rather have a set of forwards who dont need to dish it out to prove they are as tough as teak.
tommy, george, prescott, mossop, hoff, hansen - they can all handle themselves. however, its the discipline that helps us.
would you want 3 gaz hocks in your pack ????
it would be fun, but we wouldnt win much

just look at how much better a player cowie was when he learned to stop punching. and the ultimate role model for being tough but restrained is Faz.

Except for when he was head-butting Jimmy Lowes? Tempting as it is I wouldn't call that restrained

Dont know about lite on biff?
I personal wouldn't want to meet an angry lima or hoff in a dark ally
I think were light on people who want a fight in a game but not on players that would most certainly hold there own
Not a bad position really

weird because Kiwis absolutely love a brawl, thought Lima/Hansen would love a good ruck, Mickey Mac always likes to niggle and put some big shots on the oppo though so I really like that about him

and we can always think back to how much Terry Newton loved to get stuck in and swing some punches about

Did this happen after the match?

yes it happened later on while having a drink.

Yeah a few of the u20's lads went out after the post-game dinner at the team's hotel. That's when it's supposed to have happened

SO the Wigan club have fined Tomkins for flicking the V's lets see what the Leeds club do to Bailey for flicking his yed! Add his jail term and his love of sick jokes of thousands of people dying in natural disasters and the Leeds club must be really proud of him.

A current Wigan player has also had a pretty good shot at Lowes - more than pretty good actually.