yes,that really was scandalous !!! more blatant than the Richards effort

FWIW - you lot are moaning/arguing about McGuire & Tomkins but as a neutral I would love to see them in my team anyday.....two great players.

One thing you can't deny is that Yorkshire bitter is the best... And especially in large quantities.... Loving it, fire up the B-B-Q and get the chicken wings out...

McGuire has become another of the long line at Leeds that do not reach their potential. Smith and Bailey are 2 other examples.

McGuire has gone from a potentially great support playing pacey half to a cheap shot merchant. I am certain if he concentrated on his game like the other 2 they would be far superior players.

McGuire was throwing cheap shots all night. Tried to put a few on Joel one which went un-noticed by the refs and the Sky team that was a bad one and resulted in a bit of a scuffle off the ball.

Players like the 3 mentioned could in my opinion been a real asset to the International team but lost their way, were I a Leeds fan I would be very concerned about that fact.

Thank you for your concern. It's very touching.

No really. The whole town seems to be obsessed with all things Leeds.

Leeds Whiners - a spent force if ever there was one.

They've won so much in recent years, now its all going Pete Tong they haven't got the strength of character and psychological integrity to handle it and have gone from a skilled rugby team (Bailey excluded) to Superleague 2011's whiners and cheat shot merchants - pun intended.

We were also in the position of everything going wrong a few years ago.......... except we handled it better, no whining, no cheap shots, just getting stuck in and getting there by sheer hard graft.

Enjoy the ride boys...... it won't be fun.

I think most opposition fan's issue with Sam T is his moments of impetulance and gamesmanship - particularly in the struggle to play the ball. He milks the penalty for all it's worth. Shame really, as he's a great prospect. He's no Darren Lockyer thats for sure. Presumably no one will entertain the idea that he deliberately knocked the ball from Maguire's hands and therefore play should have continued?

The one what won them the game v crusaders was way worse

Impetulance ? You've made that word up yourself !

Gamesmanship ?

Examples please.

You've been listening to scouser Eddie Hemmings again haven't you ?

Petulant, you know, irritable, easily wound up. See pushing and shoving when he professionally fouled sinfield and then again at the end of the game. I'm sure I don't have to explain the term.milking the penalty. What, you think fans detest him because of his haircut!? These things make for an excellent competitor, but they are unnecessary imo. You don't see slater et al playing games like that

whiners i'll give you and it annoys us all but Wigan still hold the title for top cheap shot merchants.


...and cheating the salary cap of course, don't forget that.


newsflash! the season's far from over yet.

And Leeds fans say he doesn't get stuck out on the wing in defence... funny, seen it plenty just in the last few weeks... usually doing his impression of a revolving door.

His tackling technique involves jumping up with a swinging arm.