Stop trying to pretend that what happened didn't happen.

We all know what we saw.

did he keep hold of the ball when he hit the floor?..no? Enough said tool.

No response from Hartster??

There's not much else he can say. We all saw what happened. There is no dispute.

I have been doing a little winding up on the Bulls board and i have been very suprised by the level of paranoia from the Bulls fans who post there....... Bag of chips on both shoulders...

these forums were made for people with chips on shoulders

I have to admit to being very shocked as just how paranoid the posters there are...

I don't routinely go on other clubs' message boards, but I'll take your word for it.

I think we in Wigan are as good at doing paranoia as anyone, possibly better than most. But I'm really, really surprised at the resistance to responsibility the Bradford fans - at least those who've posted on here - seem to be showing with regard to the Raynor/Tomkins incident. This was as clear-cut a nasty foul as I've almost ever seen. And frankly, pointing to fouls that Wigan players have committed in the past, as if this somehow excuses it, is schoolyard logic.

That some of them have had the gall to call for the two-match ban to be appealed is amazing. For my money, it was worth another two easily.

2 more matches?.........in other sports he could have got charged with assault and ended up getting 2 month..........because it wasnt a foul, it was assault with intent.

Is he still on early release? Breach of parole?

To be fair, and I know that this may upset some. I do not think it was intentional, he thought he could knock the ball out. The consequence was far worse than the intent. It was dangerous, but I dont think delibrate. Sending off was fair enough.

Theyre bordering on the levels seen when mcguire injured himself cheating when some leeds fans were claiming carmont stamped on him (repeating some players or coaches i seem to recall?)

he plead guilty so i don't see where the problem is?? apparently he hit him directly on a knock-out point if he had been 1/2 inch either way it wouldn't have made same black out??

It won't upset anyone because it's wrong.

This isn't really a matter of opinion. A punch in the face is a punch in the face, and we all saw it.

Which sports? Bowls? You diminish any argument with hysterical rantings like these. Some Bradford fans think Tomkins was feigning it. Your argument is at the other side of the dumbass spectrum. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Anyhooooooooo,it's dealt with. Move on!


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