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Quote: Billy`s Cat "Please don't get me started about this guy! Not only is he a joker off the pitch but on it as well! Sorry he does not cut the mustard at all. I appreciate that some Aussies take time to settle in but this guy looks like he just cannot be ar$$d. I disagree with the view that if he was from Wigan we would be "up his booty", because on his performances to date we would definitely not be.'"


have to agree here, if it was a wigan lad some people on here would be ripping him apart, but as he is australian apparently he gets let of being crap.

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Finch came back from injury too soon.
When he was picked for the Wire game it was unexpected and due to Deacs being ruled out through injury.
He only started contact training two days before the Wire game.
That was far too soon and it showed on the pitch well enough.
He is getting better every game and will continue to improve as the season goes on.
With him improving, Deacs back, Pat is also now in the team I think the performance levels will improve each week.
We also have Fielden to return and Hock will appear late June. Those two, given a couple of games, will make a massive difference to our pack. If the forwards can get back to their best of last year and the backs thrive off it then we could very well have an excellent season again.

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i dont get this having to bed in stuff too,
if he is as good a player as people say he is then he shouldnt need time to bed in,
i just dont think its an excuse

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Quote: truewiganer "have to agree here, if it was a wigan lad some people on here would be ripping him apart, but as he is australian apparently he gets let of being crap.'"


Complete nonsense...player criticism has nothing to do with where a player comes from, and eveything to do with his performances.

5 games is simply not enough for a fair assessment, especially after coming back from a serious injury & operation.

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Quote: truewiganer "i dont get this having to bed in stuff too,
if he is as good a player as people say he is then he shouldnt need time to bed in,
i just dont think its an excuse'"


John Ferguson and Brett Kenny didn't have to 'bed in' !

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Quote: moonlight flit "John Ferguson and Brett Kenny didn't have to 'bed in' !'"


Depends on the player - some do, some don't. There are plenty of examples of imports who have taken a while to show their true class - Pat included; equally there are some, like Hoffman, who impress from day 1.

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Can't believe people are on Finch's back after 5 games. Get a grip.

Gene Miles did sod all until mid-December in his one season at Wigan but he's talked about as a legend by many.

Craig Smith had an indifferent start in his first season but again, is always spoken highly about.

Pat's first season?

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Gene Miles was poor in the first half of the season he was with us as he struggled to get over injuries... the rest (the masterclass in centre play that he delivered, the finest I have seen in club RL) is history. I'm not saying that I expect Finch to reach those levels but even an all time great of RL like Miles needed time to recuperate and get used to playing in this country. Why can't people just give Finch the benefit of the doubt for now? icon_confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Deano G "Gene Miles was poor in the first half of the season he was with us as he struggled to get over injuries... the rest (the masterclass in centre play that he delivered, the finest I have seen in club RL) is history. I'm not saying that I expect Finch to reach those levels but even an all time great of RL like Miles needed time to recuperate and get used to playing in this country. Why can't people just give Finch the benefit of the doubt for now?

by all accounts he is not settled in wigan and wants a move back to the nrl possibly ss bunnys according to reports in australia

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To criticise a player after 5 games coming from Australia is very harsh. If that was the case we would have sent Richards packing with Vaeliki long ago.

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if hes as good as everyone says then he shouldnt need time to get to grips with the game,
he should still be able to play rugby, one pitch is like any other,

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and what ppl who use the pat richards argument seem to forget it that he was being played out of position in his first year

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Quote: truewiganer "and what ppl who use the pat richards argument seem to forget it that he was being played out of position in his first year'"


But at the time it did not matter he was been played out of position the club needs a scapegoat for those people who were complaining. Only reason you point that argument out is to cover yourself as how stupid do those people look now but you will find hardly anyoine will come out and say they wanted him gone back then now. Craig Smith, Trent Barrett did not play well at the start either.

At the moment the team is not playing well either the best team lost on friday. It easier to get away with it if its all going well but you do find the odd person who will moan at the slightest mistake by a player but will let a fans favourite get away with it. Sam Tomkins came up with some big mistakes on Friday. Missed the 20-20, Knock on on our try line, verfy often took the wrong options in attack. If that had been Finch he would be gettting murdered on here.

Problem with the supporters is if your face fits you will get away with anything if it does not the you will get blamed for most things.

You are right in what you say one pitch is the same as another. But all teams are different and it takes timme for a player to adjust he missed a lot of ore season as well. Even Deacon took time to settle in and he got more of it than Finch has.

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hes been crap, cant understand why your defending him
hes been very very poor,
if your saying that the problem with supporters is if ur face dont fit they dont want u,
its like you if people dont agree with ur opinion then you dont want to know.

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Quote: truewiganer "hes been crap, cant understand why your defending him
hes been very very poor,
if your saying that the problem with supporters is if ur face dont fit they dont want u,
its like you if people dont agree with ur opinion then you dont want to know.'"



You talking about me or yourself about your last part. You defenitly have no understanding about people moving 10,000 miles some need time to get used to it.

I gave you a constructive reply you give that reply. I have not defended him nor have i attacked him, but you have attacked him. Yet i popint out Tomkins errors and you dont want to know. You have already made your mind up pretty much as you did if you wre old enough when Pat Richards signed and others who take a few months to settle in.

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