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| Charnley’s first try was a definite forward pass IMO. 2nd one was borderline. Westerman had the ball stripped over the line by Tommy. The 2nd Hull try was inconclusive. I watched Boots n All The Tries last night and watched them all of them in slow motion. O’loughlin was about half a yard behind the 10 yard line and Charley caught it about a yard in front. Whether the momentum rule comes into I don’t know (but I don’t really buy that c**p).
Ganson had a poor game, which was a surprise for me as I had thought he had improved recently. 1 try each given that were incorrect. We were lucky when he decided to penalise Hull for holding down, being in the way at the ruck or whatever it was as they had done that all afternoon and he had not penalised them once for it and then he decides to give us one at a critical time and position. Then he very harshly penalises Lima and gives it in the wrong spot to try to give Hull a shot?
Thems the breaks, we didn’t play well, the ref shouldn’t have come into it but he did. We still had enough to win.
The worst outcome of this match if the fact that the media will pick up on our so called technique again. If only other teams coaches would follow our example and keep their opinions to themselves and let their team do the talking on the pitch.
Quote (not word for word but along the lines of) from Barrie McDermott on the above program “Wigan won the title last year on the back of strong defense”. Didn’t we score the most points and play the best rugby? Yes, defense was/is a major factor, but so is/was attack. I assume most teams try to keep the other team from scoring and score more points than them?
He then went on to discuss our ‘controversial’ tackling technique imported from Melbourne. What are the chances that this will get discussed further on Boots n All this week, or perhaps Nathan Brown will mention it either prior to, or after the game on Friday?
And before anyone posts stating that I’m one of those ‘Everyone against Wigan’ posters, just remember that I’m stating facts. (Proven by the fact that I can admit the forward pass.)
Rant over.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "On the subject, both of Charnley's tries were from forward passes.'"
Did you have a good view from 90 metres behind the play?
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| One of the passes to Charnley did look forward but the camera is behind the play and 70% of the fans were so it is hard to judge.
The idea of Wigan cheating in the tackle is based on what? Coaches and players from teams that are struggling to get their acts together. Wigan have a very strong team ethic, Maguire has instilled a good work philosophy at the club. He also changed the attacking play of Wigan; making it an highlight of the success last year. Hard working defensivley YES boring NO.
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| Quote: pondmonster "Charnley’s first try was a definite forward pass IMO. 2nd one was borderline. Westerman had the ball stripped over the line by Tommy. The 2nd Hull try was inconclusive. I watched Boots n All The Tries last night and watched them all of them in slow motion. O’loughlin was about half a yard behind the 10 yard line and Charley caught it about a yard in front. Whether the momentum rule comes into I don’t know (but I don’t really buy that c**p).
Ganson had a poor game, which was a surprise for me as I had thought he had improved recently. 1 try each given that were incorrect. We were lucky when he decided to penalise Hull for holding down, being in the way at the ruck or whatever it was as they had done that all afternoon and he had not penalised them once for it and then he decides to give us one at a critical time and position. Then he very harshly penalises Lima and gives it in the wrong spot to try to give Hull a shot?
Thems the breaks, we didn’t play well, the ref shouldn’t have come into it but he did. We still had enough to win.
The worst outcome of this match if the fact that the media will pick up on our so called technique again. If only other teams coaches would follow our example and keep their opinions to themselves and let their team do the talking on the pitch.
Quote (not word for word but along the lines of) from Barrie McDermott on the above program “Wigan won the title last year on the back of strong defense”. Didn’t we score the most points and play the best rugby? Yes, defense was/is a major factor, but so is/was attack. I assume most teams try to keep the other team from scoring and score more points than them?
He then went on to discuss our ‘controversial’ tackling technique imported from Melbourne. What are the chances that this will get discussed further on Boots n All this week, or perhaps Nathan Brown will mention it either prior to, or after the game on Friday?
And before anyone posts stating that I’m one of those ‘Everyone against Wigan’ posters, just remember that I’m stating facts. (Proven by the fact that I can admit the forward pass.)
Rant over.'"
Finally a good honest, well done sir.
I dont see what everyones problem is with Wigans tactics, if they break the rules they will get punished, nothing to stop other teams doing the same (which I think we did on Sunday)
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| Quote: Dave K. "
I dont see what everyones problem is with Wigans tactics, if they break the rules they will get punished, nothing to stop other teams doing the same (which I think we did on Sunday)'"
Correct, Hull came with a game play to play it rough and tough to the brim of breaking the rules which you did very well. Absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Physically the on Sunday will be one of the toughest either team will play in this season.
Great game, and more of it please!
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "On the subject, both of Charnley's tries were from forward passes.'"
The first one definitely was.
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| Quote: Conroy "The first one definitely was.'"
Yes it was, the second one was o.k.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes it was, the second one was o.k.'"
The second one I guess you could use 'the momentum rule' but the first was a joke. Saying that though - it still wasn't as bad as the Meli one in Cardiff.
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| Quote: Katrina "That's what annoys me about having the big screen at some games and not others. That, and the other Hull try which looked like he's placed the ball down in touch would have definitely have gone to the screen, and probably wouldn't have been given. These are match changing decisions and could have potentially cost us the game. They should either have the big screen at all games to make it a level playing field, or scrap it at televised games.'"
You wouldn't even need the big screen for non TV games, just a video ref with a link to the refs ear piece. It was trialled a couple of seasons ago, at Hull KR IIRC? It annoys me how the game is refereed differently between TV and non-TV games and also how it is refereed differently between SL and the NRL. The 2 refs system in Oz seems to be working very well now but we dont have nearly enough top class refs to have 2 at each game, plus a video ref at each as well.
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| leave the creaming to you guys, bet your socks got a hammering ha ha
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| Quote: hull2524 "leave the creaming to you guys, bet your socks got a hammering ha ha'"
Exceptional.
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "You wouldn't even need the big screen for non TV games, just a video ref with a link to the refs ear piece. It was trialled a couple of seasons ago, at Hull KR IIRC? It annoys me how the game is refereed differently between TV and non-TV games and also how it is refereed differently between SL and the NRL. The 2 refs system in Oz seems to be working very well now but we dont have nearly enough top class refs to have 2 at each game, plus a video ref at each as well.'"
Didn't realise we had enough for 1 at each game....
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| Quote: Wight Pie "Didn't realise we had enough for 1 at each game....'"
Haha, yeh fair point.
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| Quote: Carneys Cover "c020.gif
Look again.
Thats a Union video. There's no momentum rule in Union.
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