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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Another one with a very vivid imagination, he was spoken to once and that was the on report incident.'"
You are both wrong. He was spoken to twice, the second incident was put on report.
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| Quote: pie eater and proud of it "Whats a grade B offence in terms of matches ban ?'"
One to two matches.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "One to two matches.'"
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| Quote: hula89 "I've always called Fergie an idiot after what he used to say about protecting Ronaldo etc but to effectively condone what Manu did to Tomkins is ludicrous. For a player to be assaulted about 3 times during a match then be the one that faces a ban just shows how amateurish the RFL really are and that doesn't help when we want to make ourselves a more attractive prospect than union.'"
Ah another "All the world is against us" Wiganer. If there had been anything in the tackles you mention it would have come out in the disciplinary - it hasn't so there wasn't. To call them assaults because your star man is tackled hard does nothing but embarrass you. Don't keep being fooled by conman Tomkins rolling about the floor like a pussyballer. He's the biggest play actor in the league bar none.
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| Quote: 19 Leagues "You are both wrong. He was spoken to twice, the second incident was put on report.'"
If that is the case I apologise, what/when was the first incident.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Ah another "All the world is against us" Wiganer. If there had been anything in the tackles you mention it would have come out in the disciplinary - it hasn't so there wasn't. To call them assaults because your star man is tackled hard does nothing but embarrass you. Don't keep being fooled by conman Tomkins rolling about the floor like a pussyballer. He's the biggest play actor in the league bar none.'"
So you think the RFL get everything right all the time?
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Ah another "All the world is against us" Wiganer. If there had been anything in the tackles you mention it would have come out in the disciplinary - it hasn't so there wasn't. To call them assaults because your star man is tackled hard does nothing but embarrass you. Don't keep being fooled by conman Tomkins rolling about the floor like a pussyballer. He's the biggest play actor in the league bar none.'"
There's a difference between being tackled hard and tackled unfairly.Evidently, it was the latter as the referee penalised the offence.
I'm not going to suggest they should be banned or cited if the video's been looked at, but don't pretend your players are innocent in their actions towards him.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Ah another "All the world is against us" Wiganer. If there had been anything in the tackles you mention it would have come out in the disciplinary - it hasn't so there wasn't. To call them assaults because your star man is tackled hard does nothing but embarrass you. Don't keep being fooled by conman Tomkins rolling about the floor like a pussyballer. He's the biggest play actor in the league bar none.'"
He put his arm around Sam's neck, picked him up, slammed him down and then preceeded to strike him when Sam pushed out to get him off him. How is that Sam conning anyone?
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| Quote: Guerrier "There's a difference between being tackled hard and tackled unfairly.Evidently, it was the latter as the referee penalised the offence.
I'm not going to suggest they should be banned or cited if the video's been looked at, but don't pretend your players are innocent in their actions towards him.'"
It was only a couple of weeks ago that Wigan fans were defending a Tomkins headbutt because "all good halfbacks are a bit nasty".
Tomkins is a marvellous player and a joy to watch. He is also a niggly wind up merchant and brings a lot of the hassle he gets on himself. That's not to say he deserves to be assaulted (I haven't seen any of the Hull highlights so have no idea what went on) but he would be well advised to settle down and concentrate on being a great RL player (which he undoubtedly is), and the same goes for his bro.
Neither seem able to get through a game that I've seen without doing something cheap at the moment and they don't need to be like that. IMO of course.
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| They were all good strong aggressive tackles from manu. Everytime phelps ran the ball in from fullback and his head was taken off nothing was done as phelps didnt pretend as if he had been hit by a train like that little fanny you have playing at fb.
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| Quote: chris-hfc " that little fanny you have playing at fb.'"
Class though isn't he?
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| Quote: hula89 "He put his arm around Sam's neck, picked him up, slammed him down and then preceeded to strike him when Sam pushed out to get him off him. How is that Sam conning anyone?'"
And yet the disciplinary panel saw nothing wrong. Do you think you might be making a bit too muh of it?
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "And yet the disciplinary panel saw nothing wrong. Do you think you might be making a bit too muh of it?'"
A bit like people are with the Joel Tomkins incident you mean?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "It was only a couple of weeks ago that Wigan fans were defending a Tomkins headbutt because "all good halfbacks are a bit nasty".
Tomkins is a marvellous player and a joy to watch. He is also a niggly wind up merchant and brings a lot of the hassle he gets on himself. That's not to say he deserves to be assaulted (I haven't seen any of the Hull highlights so have no idea what went on) but he would be well advised to settle down and concentrate on being a great RL player (which he undoubtedly is), and the same goes for his bro.
Neither seem able to get through a game that I've seen without doing something cheap at the moment and they don't need to be like that. IMO of course.'"
I agree, and you're right to say he doesn't deserve to be assaulted which in the OP was a tad strong. The Hull fan in question didn't seem to be able to discern between a ''hard challenge'' and one that was worthy of a penalty on the field, but not further sanction from the RFL.
His brother's an idiot at times and just seems to lose it, something he'll hopefully grow out of.
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| Quote: chris-hfc "They were all good strong aggressive tackles from manu. Everytime phelps ran the ball in from fullback and his head was taken off nothing was done as phelps didnt pretend as if he had been hit by a train like that little fanny you have playing at fb.'"
If they were good tackles why was you penilised for them? 3 or 4 times you conceded penalties for tackles on Sam dont talk rubbish.
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