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Quote: P-J "Mossop was outstanding last year. He was just very unfortunate with injuries.'"


Disagree.

Granted there were glimpses but he lacked any consistency even when fit.

The potential is there, but for me both Farrell and Prescott are both far more deserving of a place. Farrell once he got his chance for me was one of our stand out players week in week out.

Long term I think Mossop will eclipse Prescott but on form,he will have to wait for his chance.

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What's the issue with Mossop? eusa_eh.gif

Assuming he can recover from the injury I would expect him to be challenging very strongly for a spot in the 17. Personally I'd like to see him tried out at prop. Anyway, IMO while he has a lot of potential to fulfil he has already established himself as a first teamer.

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Quote: Deano G "What's the issue with Mossop?

Don't think there is an issue, but we do have a strong squad and I do not think he has been as good as Farrell or Prescott. Yes he will be pushing and so he should be, but at the moment I feel he still has a lot to prove Tuson and Mossop for me start of next year just behind the obvious candidates and Farrell.

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The only issue I see is the insane amount of competition we have in the forwards (before the injuries kick in). He isn't going to get much better bullying reserve packs.

In the back row he has O'Loughlin, Tomkins, Hoffman, Hansen and Farrell ahead of him at the moment, and with Tuson trying to get a look in. This is before Hock is back.

At prop he has Fielden, Coley, Lima, Prescott ahead of him, and O'Carroll is probably there too, with Davies sniffing around too.

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Quote: jonh "Don't think there is an issue, but we do have a strong squad and I do not think he has been as good as Farrell or Prescott. Yes he will be pushing and so he should be, but at the moment I feel he still has a lot to prove Tuson and Mossop for me start of next year just behind the obvious candidates and Farrell.'"


I think after the preseason we'll know what the plans for Mossop are, if he bulks up a lot then he should be heading for prop.

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Quote: Father Ted "Farrell could well be in front of Mossop after 2010 season.
Perhaps the loanees could be Tuson, Phelps, Pryce and O'Carroll.'"


Why would we extend Phelps and Pryce's contracts to simply send them out on loan?

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Quote: jonh "Disagree.

Granted there were glimpses but he lacked any consistency even when fit.

The potential is there, but for me both Farrell and Prescott are both far more deserving of a place. Farrell once he got his chance for me was one of our stand out players week in week out.

Long term I think Mossop will eclipse Prescott but on form,he will have to wait for his chance.'"


I think your spot on there.

Mossop has the potential to be really top class either in the second row or at prop he is very much like a young Jamie Peacock and hopefully he can progress to become as good and maybe even better. He has a few small flaws to his game that he needs to iron out for me, like you say Farrell is much more complete at this stage in their careers at the moment.

Mossops best spells came when he played his first 4-5 games plus maybe a few more. I wouldnt loan him out though as hes definitely useful to have as a second rower against a big back as was proved V's StHelens on good Friday and Leeds mid season.

The players i'd have out on loan are between Mellor, Marsh, Davies, Tuson possibly King. Charnley is a tricky one at the moment, one of the reason i'd like us to sign up Pryce and Phelps is to use them as the primary back ups who will be in the reserves for large sections of the year but would be needed which then allows our young lads to go out and get some proper superleague game time consistantly. If we do sign them Charnley should also be allowed to go on loan. ( As Andy Coley seemed to want at the homecoming icon_lol.gif )

Obviously we'd need the option to recall if we get severe injuries especially the likes of Tuson and Charnley.

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In my view farrell is now ahead of mossop, he took his chance well and never looked back

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I think we have short memories here. Prescott would have remembered this as a bad season if it weren't for the last two games. Fair enough he might start the year in the same form and keep Mossop out but I wouldn't be too sure of that, form seems to change for most players during pre season, particularly as neither will be playing rep games. When both are on average form I'd definitely prefer Mossop. Also people are just taking it as read that Hoffman and Lima will turn up in hot form, it may well be a case of giving them a game or two in the reserves while they settle in. I can't name many players who came to us from aus and were in form from day 1.

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Quote: MidlandsWarrior2 "In my view farrell is now ahead of mossop, he took his chance well and never looked back'"


Without a doubt. For someone who only made his debut this year, he's done brilliantly well.

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Quote: Grimmy "I think we have short memories here. Prescott would have remembered this as a bad season if it weren't for the last two games. Fair enough he might start the year in the same form and keep Mossop out but I wouldn't be too sure of that, form seems to change for most players during pre season, particularly as neither will be playing rep games. When both are on average form I'd definitely prefer Mossop. Also people are just taking it as read that Hoffman and Lima will turn up in hot form, it may well be a case of giving them a game or two in the reserves while they settle in. I can't name many players who came to us from aus and were in form from day 1.'"


Absolute Rubbish!
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Some of our first team squad will end up out on loan, be it for a season, month by month or dual registration. It has to happen given the sheer size of our squad, but its hardly done us any harm so far has it - Farrell, Joel, Mossop, Charnley....

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Quote: Bovrick "To be honest our second string could probably beat Quins anyway.'"



You seem to have forgotten that we smashed you on your own ground last season!!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Jukesays "Absolute Rubbish!
I know you're his biggest fan on here but come on, he hardly set the world alight bar those two games.

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Quote: Grimmy "I think we have short memories here. Prescott would have remembered this as a bad season if it weren't for the last two games. Fair enough he might start the year in the same form and keep Mossop out but I wouldn't be too sure of that, form seems to change for most players during pre season, particularly as neither will be playing rep games. When both are on average form I'd definitely prefer Mossop. Also people are just taking it as read that Hoffman and Lima will turn up in hot form, it may well be a case of giving them a game or two in the reserves while they settle in. I can't name many players who came to us from aus and were in form from day 1.'"


Isn't Prescott in the Ireland squad for the European Cup?

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