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So is he a left or right centre?

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Played with Josh, hes brilliant

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Quote: MrPhilb "So is he a left or right centre?'"


Mainly right wing in his recent academy career but has played left wing and right centre at times.

This year he's claimed 17 tries in 10 Under 20s games.

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Quote: Bilko "Mainly right wing in his recent academy career but has played left wing and right centre at times.

This year he's claimed 17 tries in 10 Under 20s games.'"



I imagine he will feature in the centre for us seeing as though all four of ours have been wiped out in Welham, Webster, Ratu and Walker

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Quote: Bilko "No one knows. But the sport and our club wasted academy players for fun in Luke Robinson's era. It's less likely to happen now with dual-registration giving players opportunities. Just look at Liam Farrell and Chris Tuson - both have benefitted dramatically by going away this year.'"


I think everyone is getting a little mixed up here.

I’m in no way shape or form doubting Charnley has potential and I don’t doubt the current set up makes it a hell of a lot easier for them to make the transition. Madge not only makes the use of the dual reg system but he gives them more than a fair crack of the whip.

All I’m arguing is that no one knows for certain how a player will adapt to SL rugby and you can’t say a player like Charnley is a better player than one like Colbon until he’s proven he can adapt to SL rugby.

I’m confident that Charnley is talented enough to make it but he’s not there yet that’s all where as Colbon is

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Good luck to the lad. Hopefully I'll get to see him make his debut on Friday against Leeds.

Reading the thread people say he's not particularly quick so what's his real strengths?

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Good luck to the lad. Hopefully I'll get to see him make his debut on Friday against Leeds.

Reading the thread people say he's not particularly quick so what's his real strengths?'"



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Quote: MrPhilb "I imagine he will feature in the centre for us seeing as though all four of ours have been wiped out in Welham, Webster, Ratu and Walker'"

didn't know that yous had all 4 injured thought you's had a decent chance on friday as well with the way the rovers have been playing recently especially in defence.

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Quote: hamiltonsaint "didn't know that yous had all 4 injured thought you's had a decent chance on friday as well with the way the rovers have been playing recently especially in defence.'"



Yep the last three are gone for the season and Welham is awaiting the results of a scan

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Good luck to the lad. Hopefully I'll get to see him make his debut on Friday against Leeds.

Reading the thread people say he's not particularly quick so what's his real strengths?'"



He is quick, he has played wing position and has shown he is fast.
He's strong, and very fit. He's constantly in the right place and knows when to open his mouth n tell the team whats right.

I will defiantly be there tomorrow, i see a big debut ahead.
Understand a few of the concerns with him not playing SL before, but watching him from academy to under 20's i think he will adapt well in my opinion.

Without being over the top... i failed to find something bad about Charnely in the past few years. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Wigwam1210 "He is quick, he has played wing position and has shown he is fast.
He's strong, and very fit. He's constantly in the right place and knows when to open his mouth n tell the team whats right.

I will defiantly be there tomorrow, i see a big debut ahead.
Understand a few of the concerns with him not playing SL before, but watching him from academy to under 20's i think he will adapt well in my opinion.

Without being over the top... i failed to find something bad about Charnely in the past few years.
Thnx for the heads up buddy. icon_thumb.gif

Just about to set up SKY+ to tape tomorrow's match.

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Quote: Famous "I am sorry he is not clearly SL standard at all and it is very much up in the air if he is or not. You are basing your entire argument on tries scored, which is a very flawed argument as the vast amount of tries that a winger scores any winger could score. In any other aspect of his game he has been found wanting, not just at Wigan but at Castleford and even Widnes fans have criticised his defence in NL1.'"


I am not basing it on tries scored but on what I have seen of the player when he has played for Wigan. However some of the tres scored were far from walk-ins and took some scoring in case you forgot. He is clearly SL standard. The defence issue is the most exaggerated issue on this message board and we have other players who are suspect in defence such as Phepls who are not constantly beaten up about it. In my opinion Ainscough's defence is just an excuse those who for some reason best known to themselves don't like the player to justify their position.

Quote: Famous "If he was rated by Maguire then I am sure he would have got more than 1 game this season. The mere fact that Goulding, a centre, has been picked on the wing before him for vast chunks of the season, speaks volumes.Even Pryce got an extended run in the side to see what he could do. '"


You are ignoring the fact Pryce and Goulding can't be a dual registered players (they earn to much and/or are too old) and Ainscough can be and is. With Pryce it was stay in the U20's all season or get a chance. He could not be given a chance anywhere else so the club had only one way to see if he was up to it - play him in the first team. He's has been and now been dropped again but I'd wager if Ainscough were given the same opportunity he'd make far more of a case for himself. Writing him off after one game in the poorest side we have put out all season is a joke.

Quote: Famous "If Ainscough is so clearly SL standard then he would have played more than 1 SL game this season before getting dropped. Castleford would have also taken him back, as was originally meant to be a season long deal, and they were still short of players. '"


We ended that deal and when we did they had players back and that is why they didn't take him back and also I think you can't re-instigate such a loan deal once it's been ended at the drop of a hat. There are rules that mean you can't just loan players out, take them back then loan them out again (unlike dual registered players).

Quote: Famous "Players that are rated by other SL clubs can always get loan deals at SL clubs, as previous players have shown but it seems that only NL1 clubs wanted Ainscough.'"


Castleford clearly wanted Ainscough. I assume the reason they went for him in the first place was because of what they had seen before in 2009. Or do you think they went after him because he clearly wasn't SL standard?

Quote: Famous " Indeed why do Hull KR want Charnley, an unproven SL player, instead of Ainscough? Surely the mere fact that many people think that Ainscough has not really proven anything, has not shown himself yet to be SL standard (not just on this thread but others) means that he is not clearly anything?'"


And why do you think Wigan would want to or can end his dual reg deal at Widnes to send him to HKR for a month? Do you honestly think the practicalities of the situation mean Wigan do not take into account Widnes's views? Widnes are hardly likely to continue take dual reg players if at the first sniff of a loan deal we whip them away and then expect them to have them back after the loan just because it suits our clubs purpose. It also doesn't make much sense to shift him form club to club. He had a long spell at Cas, that came to an end now he's at Widnes. Moving him again would be stupid IMO.

Loan deals and dual registration deals depend on a lot more things than simply a players ability.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "DaveO & thepriestman85, how many times have you seen Charnley play?'"


In Super League - as many times as you have.

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Quote: DaveO "In Super League - as many times as you have.

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Dave how many times have you seen Charnley play?
Don't move the goalposts.

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