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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Quote: Pemps "Players who I've seen and I would describe as Wigan legends are;
Edwards
Hanley
West
Farrell
Radlinski
Bell

not strictly players but legends none the less
Lindsey
Monie
Lowe'"


I'd go with that but in recent years I'd add Brett Dallas in there as well. He gave his all for the club for six years (probably much longer than he first intended) and ended his career here. Always gave 100% in every game he played and never went missing when there was hard graft to do.

Brought a tear to my eye when he left his boots on the centre spot in his last ever game for us.

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just about to post the same thing regarding dallas. Think he in particular is a modern legend.

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Great point about a legend being someone who is in part someone who is admired by opposing fans (sometimes expressed by their hatred by him!!!)

As a Leigh fan obviously we don't concede too much to Wigan, and yes, you've had some fine players over the years, modern greats such as Farrell, Radlinski etc etc but I have to agree with the posts re. Brett Dallas above - I always held him in the highest regards as a player for his sheer determination and attitude as well as his skill - and I know from a dressing room source that his professionalism didn't just stop on the pitch.

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Great shout on Dallas. I'd like to think Paddy would be classed in the same high regard as Dallas; he's a points machine and a true professional. I suppose if he ended his career with Wigan, it would be hard not to.

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Quote: Famous "Newton was never good enough to be a legend in my opinion. He was always a fairly limited rugby player who often resorted to thuggery when things went against him or when players got the better of him, on other occasions he simply went missing. He wasnt a patch on Cunningham who could be considered a legend amongst the Saints fans and shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as some of the Wigan legends you mention.'"


You're being harsh on Newton - the wheels may have fallen off after he left us, but while at Wigan he never gave less than 100% and was a real leader when we were struggling in 2005. If he had stayed (he never wanted to leave but look who was in charge then, at the time most people preferred him to his replacement Higham) - and had stayed away from the drugs he could have been pushing towards legend status by now. Plus he always put his hand up for GB unlike the guy you mention.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



I'd also to give a shout for Adrian Lam as well for much the same reasons to Brett Dallas.

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Since I've been watching RL (about '92; but I was only 7), I would only class the following as legends, Edwards, Radlinski, Farrell, Robinson and Offiah.

People like Skerret, Connolly, Paul, Lam, Dallas were very good players in their day, but I wouldn't put them in the 'Wigan legends' bracket.

As it stands I can see, Sam and/or Joel becoming Wigan legends if their careers continue with Wigan as well as they are at present.

People like Barrett will never be a legend at Wigan, although an incredibly talented player, he wasn't here long enough, nor had the 'right' passion for the club to be a legend.

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Quote: ksm1701 "I'd also to give a shout for Adrian Lam as well for much the same reasons to Brett Dallas.'"

I'd give a shout to Lam purely because he's the only Wigan player I know of who's appeared in his own porn movie icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: piemandan "Great shout on Dallas. I'd like to think Paddy would be classed in the same high regard as Dallas; he's a points machine and a true professional. I suppose if he ended his career with Wigan, it would be hard not to.'"

I agree with this totally, i think he will become a Wigan legend if he stays with us.
Anybody else in the current team people think?

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Quote: Pemps "I'd give a shout to Lam purely because he's the only Wigan player I know of who's appeared in his own porn movie icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Even though he didn't play a full season I'd have Brett Kenny down as a Wigan legend for two main reasons

Was just going to post the same sort of thing. Kenny gets the legend title for the 1985 cup final. John Ferguson and Henderson Gill entered that special place fans put players who help side win such a memorable and important games on that day as well IMO. Which just goes to show as you say it isn't just about length of service or things like number of medals won but what impact a player a had.

Barrett did a similar job to Kenny in terms of dragging a mediocre side (and coach!) to higher levels of achievement but since we didn't have a 1985 moment with him in the side he probably won't get the legend status Kenny has.

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Quote: Finfin "Plus he always put his hand up for GB unlike the guy you mention.'"



cant be bothered getting into a big pointless debate, but...

international appearances by Newton (Eng & GB) = 16
international appearances by Cunningham (Wales & GB) = 23


source: www.rugbyleagueproject.org
Quote: Finfin "Plus he always put his hand up for GB unlike the guy you mention.'"



cant be bothered getting into a big pointless debate, but...

international appearances by Newton (Eng & GB) = 16
international appearances by Cunningham (Wales & GB) = 23


source: www.rugbyleagueproject.org


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I see many players I watched get mentioned in this thread such as legends such Dean Bell which I agree with but what about Frano Botica?

Without him we simply would not have won the number of trophies we did. Contrary to popular myth we didn't walk away with every game by 30 points or more for a decade and his boot was the difference in winning some close games, trophies and titles.

For the younger generation if you think Richards is good Botica was even better in that he tended rarely to have an off day and drop to say 70 or 80% accuracy.

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