Sam Tomkins is World Class
So is Pat Richards...

You might have a case for Burgess and Ellis, but the Tomkins brothers are in no way shape or form world class. As for Peacock, he still takes it to them at the top level, in a team that's heavily dominated as you say, it's hard to tell because he's never been and played against the very best week in week out, he was certainly world class four years ago when we beat them, maybe he's not there anymore. He had a very big game against us at the weekend, injury and all. Are you saying you wouldn't pick him for England at the end of the year?

I agree and I have said so on the "other forum" that we have missed Hansen more than people appreciate and without Hansen we missed Mossops size and impact. Farrell has done well but the lack of those two reduced our options on the bench considerably.

Dave

Its wierd how much his game suffers from being on the wing, defensively he was very out of sorts in the SOO game. The commentators kept saying its because he wasn't used to playing wing, but then someone pointed out he played there for more than half his first class games!

Richards is just quality winger, fantasic defensively, great in the air, fair bit of pace.

Joel is a fantastic talent. He has a good work rate and is a very strong runner in attack but yet can still put in some very punnishing hits in defence. Some of our second rows only really excel at one or the other, such as Hansen in defense but doesnt offer much in attack, where as Joel can do it all. As he gets older he will fill out even more and will get even better in my opinion. He will definately become a regular for England in my opinion.

That's what's puzzling me about Chris Tuson's selection over Feka. Unless Feka pulled up in the warm-up (which I haven't heard anything about if he did injure himself. He was out there before the game with everyone else) then it's a big error on Madge's part in my view not to play four props in that weather against a big pack like Leeds. I still don't know why Tuson never saw any game time when both Joel and Farrell were off the field. You could argue that a game of that intensity was no place for an untested youngster to make his debut for the club but this game was always going to be like that so why take the risk of putting him on the bench?

It would not have been his debut.

Yeah I don't really get why he came inside so much, perhaps they would be better with him at FB, problem is that NSW's captain Kurt Gidley plays FB. I've not been impressed with Gidley last series or in the first game of this, he must be doing something right because he always gets picked but I don't see it.

He has also played a fair few games for Castleford too, and done well from the games and highlights that I have seen.

Really? I didn't think played for us yet. He's obviously played for Cas already. When did he make his debut then?