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Think a lot of you have got the wrong end of the stick with this ruling.

All the decision means is that the final doesn't have to be Live on Free to Air like has been in the past.

The Challenge Cup will remain on the BBC. Sky won't bid for it - no chance of that! No else will go for it either. Setanta maybe if they were still around but it just isn't an asset for a pay tv company.

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Quote: Bilko "Think a lot of you have got the wrong end of the stick with this ruling.

All the decision means is that the final doesn't have to be Live on Free to Air like has been in the past.

The Challenge Cup will remain on the BBC. Sky won't bid for it - no chance of that! No else will go for it either. Setanta maybe if they were still around but it just isn't an asset for a pay tv company.'"


Still doesnt make sense though, by the way it sounds BBC will still show all of the early rounds. If a non RL fan watches the earlier rounds and enjoys watching it, then finds out the final is either on Sky/ESPN, then if they dont already have it, I doubt they will pay extra to watch it.

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Quote: Coventry Warrior! "Still doesnt make sense though, by the way it sounds BBC will still show all of the early rounds. If a non RL fan watches the earlier rounds and enjoys watching it, then finds out the final is either on Sky/ESPN, then if they dont already have it, I doubt they will pay extra to watch it.'"


Again you've got the wrong end of the stick. The final was protected so it HAD to be on free to air. All being removed from that list means it doesn't have to be but can be if the rights are sold to a free broadcaster, which they are and will continue to do so.

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Quote: Bilko "Again you've got the wrong end of the stick. The final was protected so it HAD to be on free to air. All being removed from that list means it doesn't have to be but can be if the rights are sold to a free broadcaster, which they are and will continue to do so.'"


But if someone comes along and buys the rights to show the games it wont be on the BBC?

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Quote: Coventry Warrior! "But if someone comes along and buys the rights to show the games it wont be on the BBC?'"
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Well it's more of an asset to a pay tv operator than it was because under the old rule they wouldn't have had the final exclusively.

But a pay tv operator won't go near the cup. Particularly Sky. It would be of zero benefit to them. It just isn't a good enough competition.

ESPN seem happy with football and american sports. The FA Cup rights are up for grabs but they are no biting at that and neither are Sky.

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Quote: Coventry Warrior! "

the Challenge Cup Final is no longer on the protected list meaning that it can be on pay TV. The early rounds have never been on the protected list - which means taht the BBC [iwants[/i to broadcast them.

The BBC are under no obligation to show [iany[/i of the games - even though the final is on the "list" doesnt mean that they have to broadcast it.

They bid for the competition as a whole because they see it as adding value to their portfolio of sports, and I see no reason why this would change in the future.

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The BBC dislike RL anyway.

The sports headlines on the saturday evening BBC news last week spoke of the defeats of England and Wales Rah Rah teams, and showed some crappy footage of penalties and kicks. This item was the first on the report.

At the end of the sports news it "mentioned" the England RL win over New Zealand, and didn't show any of the game or interview anyone.

Now if the Rah Rah team had gone into a game as underdogs and beaten the World Champions, they would have had it plastered all over the telly.

Just remember the BBC Sports Team of the year (a few years ago and I cant recall the exact year) - they gave it to ENgland RU, when the Wigan team had swept all all before them - fix? I think so.

I don't know the answer though. I like many others love RL but can't afford Sky Sports, so I'd prefer it to be on a free channel. What is most important is that it goes to a TV company that will show it to a large audience, and can do it better than the BBC.

I'm concerned that once off the BBC, a sponsor will be hard to find.

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Well it's more of an asset to a pay tv operator than it was because under the old rule they wouldn't have had the final exclusively.

But a pay tv operator won't go near the cup. Particularly Sky. It would be of zero benefit to them. It just isn't a good enough competition.

ESPN seem happy with football and american sports. The FA Cup rights are up for grabs but they are no biting at that and neither are Sky.'"


Ok well aslong as it stays on the BBC then I'll be happy icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Bilko "Setanta.'"


Obsessed - it's gone. Let it go man!

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Quote: JTB "Obsessed - it's gone. Let it go man!'"


It's not gone, it's still alive. I just have to move to Ireland, the Carribean or Australia. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Coventry Warrior! "rlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/8356391.stmrl

Challenge Cup will no longer be shown on the BBC next year. This is not good for the sport. With the Cup not being on the BBC, it sorts of takes away a bit of the magic of it.

Hopefully though Sky will get the rights to show the games and the coverage will be a lot better.'"


Can you show me where it say that the Challenge Cup will not be on the BBC next year because I cannot see it

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Might be worth changing the title. How about "Very remote chance of the CC final not being on the BBC" icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Grimmy "Might be worth changing the title. How about "Very remote chance of the CC final not being on the BBC"
I have changed the title using far less effort than that!

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Quote: Jono "The BBC dislike RL anyway.
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England v Argentina
BBC Radio 5 Live 14Wales v Scotland
BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra 15England v Brazil
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Uninterrupted rugby league commentary as England face Australia in the final of the Four Nations tournament. Coverage starts at 19:15.

Just heard the advert for this Saturday's sport on Radio 5 and 5Live extra. Guess which of the four games above wasn't mentioned. Would it have been so difficult to have tagged the 4 Nations final on to the end of the ad? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Jono " The BBC dislike RL anyway.'"


Who is “The BBC”?

They are a large organisation, elements of which probably want to see RL fail – but has many people who love RL and want it to do well.

Quote: Jono " The sports headlines on the saturday evening BBC news last week spoke of the defeats of England and Wales Rah Rah teams, and showed some crappy footage of penalties and kicks. This item was the first on the report.

At the end of the sports news it "mentioned" the England RL win over New Zealand, and didn't show any of the game or interview anyone.

Now if the Rah Rah team had gone into a game as underdogs and beaten the World Champions, they would have had it plastered all over the telly. '"


The BBC News will report items that it thinks people are interested in. Look at the respective attendances - and you will see a clear indication as to why the RL barely merited a mention.

Quote: Jono " Just remember the BBC Sports Team of the year (a few years ago and I cant recall the exact year) - they gave it to ENgland RU, when the Wigan team had swept all all before them - fix? I think so. '"


RL did very well at the BBC Awards in 2006.

Quote: Jono " I'm concerned that once off the BBC, a sponsor will be hard to find.'"


Why? If we cant find a better sponsor than Leeds Polytechnic, we are in a bad way anyway.

For the sport of RL to truly be considered a “national treasure” or whatever nonsense name they give this list – it needs the hardcore fans to get behind it and support it first of all.

We cant complain about lack of media attention and television coverage when we are getting less than 20k at some international games and probably wont sell out the biggest game for years this weekend.

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