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Quote: Toffee Warrior "Look at the way the Aussies played right to left today all stood back their passing speed was un-real. We will never have that when all SL teams play the flat pass game. It bugs me they dont have any plan b we just start playing panic rugby.'"


was allowed by a poor defensive line, dog legged and not taking their man created space.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Toffee Warrior "Look at the way the Aussies played right to left today all stood back their passing speed was un-real. We will never have that when all SL teams play the flat pass game. It bugs me they dont have any plan b we just start playing panic rugby.'"


It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.

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Quote: Odemwingie "It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.'"


Smith kept coming in and leaving gaps it was laughable.

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Said it on the ground..........Burgess had to show himself to prove he could play NRL (as Ellis did last year). He was the only player imo that can hold his head high and say he beat the aussies

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: pedro17 "Smith kept coming in and leaving gaps it was laughable.'"


McGuire was just as bad but people have been blinded with how bad he was in attack icon_lol.gif

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Quote: pedro17 "was allowed by a poor defensive line, dog legged and not taking their man created space.'"


I totally agree our line speed is slow and well not a line.

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Quote: Conroy "Said it on the ground..........Burgess had to show himself to prove he could play NRL (as Ellis did last year). He was the only player imo that can hold his head high and say he beat the aussies'"
I don't agree he was the only one, there was a few, apart from in the first half!
We shouldn't forget we got a 40 minute thumping but the second half was one to be proud of.

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Quote: flyingkelvin "I don't agree he was the only one, there was a few, apart from in the first half!
We shouldn't forget we got a 40 minute thumping but the second half was one to be proud of.'"


Yes, because the Aussies really played the game in the 2nd half icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Conroy "Yes, because the Aussies really played the game in the 2nd half
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Quote: Odemwingie "It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.'"


They just needed to hold there position and not run out the line. A friend of mine last week told me Sam wasn`t good enough for england because of the way he runs out of the line a Leeds fan would you believe.

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Tomkins and Eastmond for 6 & 7 is excellent and Crabtree was IMo our best forward.
No doubt, knowing Smith as we do, he'll drop the three of them for next week.
We could well beat the Kiwis next week if that 2nd half performance can be repeated. Then the following week would bring another England V Australia clash.
Of the players to day who shouldn't play McGuire and Roby and the two most vulnerable but Smith will probably stick with them.

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Quote: flyingkelvin "Where did I say they did???'"


You didn't, i'm just saying that people are getting carried away with our 2nd half

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Quote: Conroy "You didn't, i'm just saying that people are getting carried away with our 2nd half'"
Was it not encouraging? They could have quit in the dressing room at half time, they didn't!

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Quote: flyingkelvin "Was it not encouraging? They could have quit in the dressing room at half time, they didn't!'"


Again....I guess so.

My opinion of the game was that we lost it in the 1st half due to lack of forward power and played in the 2nd.

Sam might as well have sat with me the ball he got in the first half. If we want to play Sinfield at first man then give him the 7 jersey and play Westerman at 13. It looked as though Smith wanted to make him look biz.

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Quote: robbierotten ".Billy Slater was on the recieving end a couple of times in the second half.'"


Good, he deserves it the tit.

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