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16522.jpg "Wigan Athletic - No known famous fans. The town (of Wigan) apparently goes into hibernation when the Rugby League season ends!" Daily Mail Online feature, July 2009
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| Quote: AJ "Surely if it was Wane the announcement could be Monday, I hope its Wednesday because its Mcguire?'"
It's McGuire
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| Quote: Bert's Medal "It's McGuire'"
Hopefully youre correct.
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| Quote: AJ "If we finish top next season but get knocked out in the play offs, will you be happy?'"
I'd be happier yes. I'd rather finish top and lose in a one-off game in the playoffs than finish 6th and still not win anything.
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: Bert's Medal "It's McGuire'"
According to this
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| Quote: AJ "If we finish top next season but get knocked out in the play offs, will you be happy?'"
As someone else has posted it's better than finishing 6th and getting knocked out in the play offs.
Finish top and we won't have lost 12 games and so will have had a far more enjoyable and less frustrating season so I don't see the down side to that compared to what we have experienced this last three seasons.
The play offs are a knock out competition and there is always en element of unpredictability in those but as has been proved ever since we went to play off format the higher you finish the better chance you have of winning the thing. So if we did finish top that would be a good thing as we would have given ourselves the best chance to win it but you can never rule anything out in a knock out competition so there are no guarantees but then we all know that don't we.
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| Quote: AJ "If we finish top next season but get knocked out in the play offs, will you be happy?'"
You keep asking this question - and it's actually quite mischievous. It's as though you're setting your stall out to not be impressed by the new guy, whoever he is, unless he wins us a trophy straight away.
I'll just be happier if we see a better-conditioned Wigan team, who are also better motivated, mentally stronger, much more composed, can do the basics quickly and efficiently, can cut out the indiscipline and unforced errors, can switch from defence to attack smoothly, have offensive patterns that put the opposition on the back foot, have a better kicking game etc etc.
This is not difficult, AJ. You must know in your heart of hearts that Wigan, on recent form - despite battling their way to two semi-finals - are not playing anything like as well as the top sides. Surely it's enough that we get to these semis, and the fans build up a colossal tide of excitement and expectation - and it's never reflected in the actual game? Surely that alone indicates that we have to look elsewhere for our chief motivator?
I honestly don't see how people can fault Lenagan for this. His statement in the Times was bang-on IMO. Five semis, four abject defeats and one reasoinably gallant defeat (which was a defeat nevertheless) is scant reward for the enthusiasm and loyalty the Wigan fans have shown in recent years. Sometimes, for the good of the overall operation, you have to make difficult and painful decisions. Yes, you're right - and I've said this several times myself - it will ultimately depend on who the new man is, but I don't see how IL's general line of thinking can be faulted.
Nobby said "the rugby gods weren't with us" - but the rugby gods don't exist. IL's view was more pragmatic. "This team is not playing as well as we think it can". Nobby has had nearly four years at Wigan - ample time to put this problem right. And though we've improved in many areas, which IL outlines, we're still not delivering the finished product. Regardless of whether or not you win trophies, the Wigan crowd has sufficient pedigree and experience to recognise the difference between a good team and an average team - and at present most of them are aware that they're watching the latter. I don't see what the chairman can do other than try to find someone who will change that.
Don't keep harping on about "how will you feel if we don't make a semi next year?". That's personal point scoring, which is rather shallow of you frankly. The team has to improve. Sitting around doing nothing will only lead to stagnation.
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| Quote: Cruncher "You keep asking this question - and it's actually quite mischievous. It's as though you're setting your stall out to not be impressed by the new guy, whoever he is, unless he wins us a trophy straight away.
I'll just be happier if we see a better-conditioned Wigan team, who are also better motivated, mentally stronger, much more composed, can do the basics quickly and efficiently, can cut out the indiscipline and unforced errors, can switch from defence to attack smoothly, have offensive patterns that put the opposition on the back foot, have a better kicking game etc etc.
This is not difficult, AJ. You must know in your heart of hearts that Wigan, on recent form - despite battling their way to two semi-finals - are not playing anything like as well as the top sides. Surely it's enough that we get to these semis, and the fans build up a colossal tide of excitement and expectation - and it's never reflected in the actual game? Surely that alone indicates that we have to look elsewhere for our chief motivator?
I honestly don't see how people can fault Lenagan for this. His statement in the Times was bang-on IMO. Five semis, four abject defeats and one reasoinably gallant defeat (which was a defeat nevertheless) is scant reward for the enthusiasm and loyalty the Wigan fans have shown in recent years. Sometimes, for the good of the overall operation, you have to make difficult and painful decisions. Yes, you're right - and I've said this several times myself - it will ultimately depend on who the new man is, but I don't see how IL's general line of thinking can be faulted.
Nobby said "the rugby gods weren't with us" - but the rugby gods don't exist. IL's view was more pragmatic. "This team is not playing as well as we think it can". Nobby has had nearly four years at Wigan - ample time to put this problem right. And though we've improved in many areas, which IL outlines, we're still not delivering the finished product. Regardless of whether or not you win trophies, the Wigan crowd has sufficient pedigree and experience to recognise the difference between a good team and an average team - and at present most of them are aware that they're watching the latter. I don't see what the chairman can do other than try to find someone who will change that.
Don't keep harping on about "how will you feel if we don't make a semi next year?". That's personal point scoring, which is below you frankly. The team has to improve. Sitting around doing nothing will only lead to stagnation.'"
Unfortunately God wasn't available for the job
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| Quote: Bert's Medal "It's McGuire'"
100% it is definatly mcguire, he signed last week
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17903_1300914398.jpg [color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg |
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| Quote: pie8er "100% it is definatly mcguire, he signed last week'"
Cronk and Blair too ?
Please say yes
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Spot on Crunch. AJ's question is stoopid.... Sorry AJ...
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| Quote: Cruncher "You keep asking this question - and it's actually quite mischievous. It's as though you're setting your stall out to not be impressed by the new guy, whoever he is, unless he wins us a trophy straight away.
I'll just be happier if we see a better-conditioned Wigan team, who are also better motivated, mentally stronger, much more composed, can do the basics quickly and efficiently, can cut out the indiscipline and unforced errors, can switch from defence to attack smoothly, have offensive patterns that put the opposition on the back foot, have a better kicking game etc etc.
This is not difficult, AJ. You must know in your heart of hearts that Wigan, on recent form - despite battling their way to two semi-finals - are not playing anything like as well as the top sides. Surely it's enough that we get to these semis, and the fans build up a colossal tide of excitement and expectation - and it's never reflected in the actual game? Surely that alone indicates that we have to look elsewhere for our chief motivator?
I honestly don't see how people can fault Lenagan for this. His statement in the Times was bang-on IMO. Five semis, four abject defeats and one reasoinably gallant defeat (which was a defeat nevertheless) is scant reward for the enthusiasm and loyalty the Wigan fans have shown in recent years. Sometimes, for the good of the overall operation, you have to make difficult and painful decisions. Yes, you're right - and I've said this several times myself - it will ultimately depend on who the new man is, but I don't see how IL's general line of thinking can be faulted.
Nobby said "the rugby gods weren't with us" - but the rugby gods don't exist. IL's view was more pragmatic. "This team is not playing as well as we think it can". Nobby has had nearly four years at Wigan - ample time to put this problem right. And though we've improved in many areas, which IL outlines, we're still not delivering the finished product. Regardless of whether or not you win trophies, the Wigan crowd has sufficient pedigree and experience to recognise the difference between a good team and an average team - and at present most of them are aware that they're watching the latter. I don't see what the chairman can do other than try to find someone who will change that.
Don't keep harping on about "how will you feel if we don't make a semi next year?". That's personal point scoring, which is rather shallow of you frankly. The team has to improve. Sitting around doing nothing will only lead to stagnation.'"
I agree.
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| If Wigan get McGuire as coach then they may as well have gone for John Dixon, or Peter Roe or Barry Eaton, or Steve Deakin etc., etc.
Will not make Wigan into world beaters with the current players and their "attitudes"
There is only ONE coach, in this country, who can get the best out of players yet he is often ignored but he is "successful" as has been shown time and time again.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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| Quote: Leaguefan "If Wigan get McGuire as coach then they may as well have gone for John Dixon, or Peter Roe or Barry Eaton, or Steve Deakin etc., etc.
Will not make Wigan into world beaters with the current players and their "attitudes"
There is only ONE coach, in this country, who can get the best out of players yet he is often ignored but he is "successful" as has been shown time and time again.'"
Paul Cullen?
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| Quote: MattyB "Paul Cullen?'"
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17903_1300914398.jpg [color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg |
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| Quote: MattyB "Paul Cullen?'"
Not even funny that
That would send me over the edge
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