Agreed

Didn't someone mention irrelevant posts?

Shaun Edwards has got even more medals than Long, so naaaar!

The only trouble is, he got old too.

Deal with reality, kid. It'll make these bitter pills easier to swallow.

He's still a very good prop when the effort is there which it has been these past few weeks.

He's been found wanting at times this year though in the effort stakes and really struggled because of it. He seemed to be really stuck in a rut around the time of the semi final against Wire but his poor preformence in games leading up to and including that game seems to have kicked him up the backside and he's now playing well because he looks re-energised.

He'll never be the vintage, rampaging and snarling Fielden again but I agree when he's on his game he's still one of the better props in superleague.

Sorry to burst that bubble but Ricky Bibey doesn't have any Lance Todd medals... but i get your point.

Fielden has been quite improved lately but if you lot are honest it wouldn't have been hard. Even so his performances are only slightly more effective than Hargreaves who is being ridiculed on here, and his defence is actually worse.

To me he has definitely benefitted from being relegated to the bench and being used for impact rather than the early game graft.

In relation to the opening post i agree if Wigan got the Fielden of 5 years ago it would greatly improve your chances come Saturday.

But if everyone played to their best ever form Saints would be a hugely more difficult task Wellens, Cunningham, Gidley, Pryce, Long in their pomp can be outstanding, christ Flannery played for Queensland and Meli was a world beater

Ricky Bibey doesn't have a lance todd medal.He hasn't got more lance todd medals.

Sorry guys.

Bitter pills? Had my fill in the early nineties, thanks. Never fancied going back, you should learn to appriciate a bit of genuine banter.

Edited.

Agree with the sentiment but I'd say that's the last thing we'd want because that would mean we've finally got p*ssed off with their constant niggle, sly digs, face wipes, holding down/back etc etc to a point where a brawl breaks out. As long as we don't spend our time trying to over protect the likes of Sam from the inevitable attention Wilkin, KFC, Pryce & co will be dishing out then we'll go ok.

Still doesn't make Long in his pomp as good as Andrew Johns in his pomp, which is what the original poster implied.

Soz.

I really do wonder how some fans have such lack of common sense.

Ahhh but you see, I haven't or never would say that Saints need Bryn if we are to win the game.

No problems, I thought the post [iimplied[/i that the likes of Long in his pomp weren't ever [ithat[/i much to worry about, not like say, a top form Stuart Fielden.