People keep saying it and saying that but does anyone ever really question it? I think Calderwood proved that there is a substitute for pace, even in a winger things like the ability to outjump defenders (Richards), strength (Vainikolo) and agility (Robinson). I would back Calderwood to beat all three of those in a race, but I'd pick all three ahead of him. Of course wingers have to be fast but there's more to it than that. iIn my opinion a more accurate saying would be "There's no substitute for momentum"

Facts:
Great performance by Wigan
Great win for Wigan
Phil Clarke is an awful pundit and biased

Thats really made me laugh. id rather have a cone on the wing

I must have been watching a different Calderwood he was fast at Leeds but when he was at Wigan and now Hull, my 80 year old nan could out run him.

I bet she couldn't!

Along with 90% of the other wingers in SL!

Name me 1 occasion when at Wigan where he got in the clear and got caught?

Name me one occasion when he showed blistering pace both for us and FC. I know for a fact that a lot of FC fans think he is poor.

The giddy twins are shat commentators. Simple really.

Dave, your argument always falls down when you harp back to Calderwood as if he was some kind of genius who we should never have released.

The man may be fast, but his attitude was rank-poor while he was at Wigan. Ask any of the players or coaching staff.

It's no good having a guy who can run, if other aspects of his personality are causing problems in the team.

In any case, he's gone and I think you need to get over it.

Your dislike for Amos Roberts is well-known (though I still think it's part of your anti-IL prospectus), but to lump Pat Richards in with this is, to be honest, quite ridiculous. The 'best tries' tape that was played at the end-of-season awards dinner was interesting in that Pat Richards was involved in nearly all of them. It isn't just speed, you know - it's strength, courage, being in the right place at the right time, determination, etc. Mark Calderwood showed very few of these things while he was at Wigan, apart from in his last match, which did neither us nor him any good at all.

Think you're a tad harsh on Calders there. He always chased back when teams broke against us which few other players did. His main problem was that he played outside 2 centres who couldn't pass.

Leeds at home end of last season from a loose ball he went 90 yards going away from chasing defenders.

Bradford play offs from a loose ball/interception - 90 yards again going away from defenders!

Countless occasions when he covered from right wing to catch breaks made down our left centre.

Notice both weren't from good passes from centres which he struggled to get in his 3 seasons at Wigan.

His main problem was that he was gash and his heart wasnt in it. If he had Gidley or Carmont next to him he still wouldn't have been interested.

Perhaps a little harsh, but neither was he the two-legged phenomenon that Dave O seems to think he was. I'd sooner have Pat Richards any day.

I'd stick to fishing in Grimsby mate