He has brought them success and done what any coach would of done going to a team like that.

It was not a massive job trying to get wire winning. They have good players, its like he had to go and sign a load of players and change the whole club around.

Load of rubbish

"Any Coach" doesn't go in and turn a club around

As a Leeds fan I have great experience of this. We used to be very much like Warrington. We chucked money at everything. Finally in the 90's we assembled a fantastic looking squad, Alan Tait, Richie Eyres, Ellery Hanley, Garry Schofield, Gary Mercer - the only thing missing was a "great coach"

Bearing in mind we had already failed under Mal Reilly (who had a bit of success with GB and won an NRL title in Oz) we appointed Doug Laughton, who had broken Wigans dominance (as you should well know) with his great Widnes side.

He failed miserably

It takes a great coach to turn around a big ship thats sinking, and Tony Smith is just that, no matter how your club bias comes into it

Brian Noble turned Wigan around from relegation contenders to within one match of the CC final and GF. Considering Noble has nothing like the players that Tony Smith has then id say Noble has proven himself as well.

so are you...and bitter and twisted as well...suck on it...challenge cup winners 09

Well Brian Noble considered the opening try scorer not good enough for Wigan, clearly....however....

Nobodys criticising Noble here - its a thread about Tony Smith

I don't really think you understand my point.

you`d know all about that then...

I'm not sure you have one, other than trying to make out Smith wouldn't have improved Wigan. Which would of course have been nonsense.

Where do I state that he would not improve Wigan, or that I would not love for him to be our coach?

I do have a point, if you do not understand it, thats ok. I am not here for an argument.

How are you sure he would?

Wigan do not have a fantastic team on paper. Warrington do. everybody was miffed why Warrington couldnt win anything with the squad they had. It was only a matter of time before they got their act together. IMO Noble could of done the job Smith has at Warrington.

Make some sense or do one.

I don't want an argument either, I'm a Leeds fan! Its no big deal to me!

Just not sure what your point is. You can explain without getting angry.

The fact is, you stated "any coach" could have turned Warrington around. From personal experience as a Leeds fan, I know that it takes a certain coach to make it work, and you as a Wigan fan should be fully aware of that yourself.

Noble benefitted from what Matthew Elliott built. This is quite clear now.

My point is that not much needed doing at Warrington, they had the players, the fans, everything all a new coach needed to do is settle the players down and give them some confidence. It has not been a special job at Warrington, it was ready made for a coach to come in and do a good job. Turning England around is a different matter which is a lot harder and is why I will judge him on that.