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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Phelps or Mathers?

No contest.

Phelps has been excellent since settling into the fullback position.'"


He has, should he continue to develop, he will rightly be here for many years.

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Phelps-looks good in attack, couldn't catch his dick in his fly.

Not safe under a high ball.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Phelps-looks good in attack, couldn't catch his dick in his fly.

Not safe under a high ball.'"


IMO something he needs to work on, but who better to work on it with his than Rads.

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Quote: AJ "IMO something he needs to work on, but who better to work on it with his than Rads.'"


Agreed. But look at the state of this thread. It's always a case of extremes, either a player is terrible etc or he's outstanding, there's no middle ground.

Phelps is doing well in attack but not proven as a FB, a good half will kick him all over the park.

Some middle ground is needed on this one.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Phelps-looks good in attack, couldn't catch his dick in his fly.

Not safe under a high ball.'"


It is true he does look shaky under the high bomb BUT do you remember Kris Radlinski when he first started playing fullback? He couldnt even get near a high ball yet he made himself one of the safest catchers of the bomb ever to play RL.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Phelps-looks good in attack, couldn't catch his dick in his fly.

Not safe under a high ball.'"


It's the one thing he needs to work on but it's not been a major issue so far for us.

I think you could count his dropped high balls on one hand since he's moved to fullback which is no more then a guy that most people reagrd as superleagues best in Brent Webb.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "It is true he does look shaky under the high bomb BUT do you remember Kris Radlinski when he first started playing fullback? He couldnt even get near a high ball yet he made himself one of the safest catchers of the bomb ever to play RL.'"


We're talking about Phelps, just because Radz became a top FB doesn't mean Phelps will. Radz is just an example. There are other examples of FBs who never got any better under the high ball.

Radz and Phelps are two different people. It's not suprising Phelps is good in attack, he was a 6 in Aus, this is no masterstroke.

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Quote: NickyKiss "It's the one thing he needs to work on but it's not been a major issue so far for us.

I think you could count his dropped high balls on one hand since he's moved to fullback which is no more then a guy that most people reagrd as superleagues best in Brent Webb.'"


Phelps seems about 50/50 on his catches and positioning. he's dropped catches in nearly every recent game.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Phelps seems about 50/50 on his catches and positioning. he's dropped catches in nearly every recent game.'"


50/50?

Not a chance.

Like i say about 5 in total since he's moved to fullback and not all of these have resulted in knock ons.

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Quote: NickyKiss "50/50?

Not a chance.

Like i say about 5 in total since he's moved to fullback and not all of these have resulted in knock ons.'"


he's not solid at FB by any means. People in here need to calm down, everything is an extreme.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "he's not solid at FB by any means. People in here need to calm down, everything is an extreme.'"


Agreed, that's what I was getting at with my previous post. We get too giddy when players are playing well and too critical when they hit poor form. We build them up to knock them down.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "We're talking about Phelps, just because Radz became a top FB doesn't mean Phelps will. Radz is just an example. There are other examples of FBs who never got any better under the high ball.

Radz and Phelps are two different people. It's not suprising Phelps is good in attack, he was a 6 in Aus, this is no masterstroke.'"


Rads is an example of someone who was terrible under the high ball in his first games at fullback but practised and became good. It is not unreasonable to think that with practise Phelps can improve under the high ball as well.

What do you mean this is no masterstroke? I fail to see why you have to throw that in. Is that some kind of dig at Noble or something?

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "he's not solid at FB by any means. People in here need to calm down, everything is an extreme.'"


I don't think it's extreme to judge him as our most improved player and one of superleagues form players.

Imo thats exactly what he is.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I don't think it's extreme to judge him as our most improved player and one of superleagues form players.

Imo thats exactly what he is.'"


Spot on. If catching the high bomb is his only fault ill take that for the amount of trys hes set up since moving to fullback. His effort and determination running the ball back are also second to none.

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Quote: Orrell Lad "Agreed, that's what I was getting at with my previous post. We get too giddy when players are playing well and too critical when they hit poor form. We build them up to knock them down.'"
He is making that shirt his own by all means he's got some work to do on his game but lets not forget he's played there how long?

For the time he's had he's doing a very good job

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