Sorry Mr Noble but you should pick up your P45 on Monday when you go to clear your desk at Orrell. I really wanted us to be successful under Noble as there is nobody at the club wants to win things more than him. I spent a few days working at Orrell last season and the work the guy puts in is unbelievable. I have defended now as much as I can and now believe the time has come to say goodbye. If we bring a new coach in now he has the chance to get us to Wembley, get us in the play-offs and possibly to Old Trafford. All a long shot I know just as staying up was when Noble came here. If we bring in a new coach he has half a season to look at the squad and see who he wants to keep, ship out and bring in. If we do this at the end of the season we have only a few weeks before the players are back in pre season and the players signed will be Noble’s players signed for a new coach. Sorry Brian but its time to say goodbye.

If I were IL the first thing I would do would be to sign Morley, he is just what we need and could do it for another 1 or 2 seasons - Short term fixed.

I would sign LMS and make a play for Burgess, sign Briscoe and Myler. - Long term fixed.

Sign Brian Smith as coach (if he wants to come if not I would give Noble more time to work with the new players).

If the signing of the players require transfer fees then so be it.

Morley £30 000
Burgess £100 000
Briscoe £70 000
Myler £200 000
LMS £80 000

An estimate of what their clubs would want to let them join us.

To leave - Phelps, Bailey, Coley, Prescott (loan), Smith.

Listed all them in the Feka Worth it what topic, first post, got told they are unrealistic targets

Performences indicate that these 'undoubtedly talented individuals' are not as good as we, or perhaps even they, believe they are.

We are average. Our backline is good, our pack is woeful. Especially the props.

How can they be unrealistic? Its simple would you want to play for a massive club averaging 15 000 a game in a good stadium will top class facilities on the way up.

Or

Stay at a small club with 5000 a game in a crap stadium doing better than they should be?

On that basis we could sign Myler and LMS and money talks with Burgess and Briscoe wouldn't turn down the chance to join his hometown club.

For £100k you'd better be talking about Luke Burgess, cos Sam would cost at least 3 times that.

How long has he left on his contract?

I think he's OoC at the end of this year. My opinion of him is that he's got tons of potential, but needs a lot more time to develop his game. He's young enough so it will come. He's got lead feet in defence and needs to control the ball better, but the kid has all the raw materials.

Spot on, that's why I only stated I'd love to see IL plans for Wigan and the years ahead, need to stop the Over-rated Aussie signings when the talent is right under our nose, the fans would be far more repective of the team if it was full of GB players, sick of average aussies from Nrl signing for us, and fans being happy with that.

I'd get him signed up and move Lockers to 2nd row, with Burgess playing were he did last night for England LF...

What a pack

Fielden
Riddell
LMS
Hock
Lockers
Burgess

We might be talking at crossed purposes here. There is no way you will get Sam Burgess for less than £300k, I am talking about Luke who would be a realistic target given his OoC status.

Btw, Sam Burgess would be much better employed in the second row than front row or loose forward.

Briscoe we would struggle to get as i believe he is happy living in Hull. As for LMS, Myler and Burgess. Money talks, if Myler and LMS have ambition then they would want to progress and come to Wigan as for Burgess Bradford are skint and need money for the new stadium development so it would take a little but maybe a Fielden + cash would do it??

Seriously what planet do you live on! Why the hell do you think we have the money to buy those players? Why do you think they'd want to come to Wigan? It aggrevates the living sh*te out of me how so many idiots on this board think we can sign anyone and everyone. Its time to face facts people, we are an average club at best.

And unfortunately, it is people like you who would have us remain so.

Stop denegrating the club and see this team for what it really is - A good set of players, which needs just a little tweaking to be right up there again, but which is ham-strung by a complete lack of leadership from its coaching staff.

FFS - This is Wigan (said in "300" style) - Most players would love to play for us, because the vast majority can see the potential, the facilities, etc..

We have everything at this club, except the right man to utilise the best facilites in the league to build a winning team.

You sound pathetic, why can a good number of our fans and the rest of SL see us for what we really are except for the deluded few like yourself that still think we own the worldof Rugby League. We are a spent force going in the wrong direction.