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Quote: MC.FINCHY "Ainy's defence has always been solid and the fact he has been outjumped a few occasions this season is just people what are looking for a reason for him to be dropped. People saying nobody deserves to be dropped at present as they are playing well, but he got dropped the week after scoring 4 tries. Brilliant confidence boost for the young ones that!'"


I agree actually and one try he scored on Saturday was superb.

The only problem is, the opposition aren't as naive as some of our supporters. They know if Ainscough plays they know that he's a weakness under the high ball. It sometimes comes across as though it's a massive deal but unfortunately it is and they will pepper him. That will affect his confidence more than anything until he learns to cope.

I've said time and time again that he will learn to improve that side of his game and when he does, it will contribute to an already awesome attacking player.

He's young, talented and has a fantastic future ahead of him providing he develops correctly and I think he will.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "And as we keep being told by those Category 1++++++++++++ fans who love telling us they go watching the reserves, its actually a house comp that doesn't prepare a player for SL, hence why our better young players are now generally being sent out on loan.

I've never been to a reserve game in my life, but don't need to, to know what Ainscough's weaknesses are. By the same token I also know that if other players (not just Roberts) were judged in the same way Ainscough has been in terms of defensive weaknesses and errors they should have been dropped/rested, whatever you want to call it as well, but haven't.

The whole "have you seen him in the reserves" argument is bollox when he's played more than enough games in the first team for anyone to make a judgement.'"


Why are you trying to make out that those who do watch the reserves are suggesting that they're better than supporters who don't? They're not, so stop being so insecure. Supporters who do watch the reserves get to see certain players more regulary against lesser opposition which means they are able to comment on things such as defence and attack and general all round play.

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Quote: ABP' "Why are you trying to make out that those who do watch the reserves are suggesting that they're better than supporters who don't? They're not, so stop being so insecure. Supporters who do watch the reserves get to see certain players more regulary against lesser opposition which means they are able to comment on things such as defence and attack and general all round play.'"


I couldn't give a toss whether people watch the reserves or not and I'm certainly not insecure about - why would I be?

However, there are some on here who trot out the "have you seen him in the reserves" argument when in a corner, as if the holder of some superior knowledge. You did it on the last page when you know the answer is no - so why ask it at all?

Like I said Ainscough's played more than enough first team games for anyone to know his strentgths and weaknesses in relation to other first teamers so the whole "have you seen him in the reserves" argument is redundant.

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Quote: DaveO "



I think the main person responsible for any confidence sapping is not the fans as there are plenty who can see past the odd mistake but Noble who when asked about Ainscough by the media never fails to add in a negative comment, no dount in my mind to justify the fact he would eventually drop him.




Dave'"


Rather like you do with O'Loughlin eh Dave? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "I couldn't give a toss whether people watch the reserves or not and I'm certainly not insecure about - why would I be?'"


For some reason you seem to accuse those who highlight that fact they've been to a reserve game that they are claiming to be better fans. This isn't the case, they are just in a better position to comment on a players form rather than somebody who only saw them in a first team game weeks earlier...Obviously?

Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "However, there are some on here who trot out the "have you seen him in the reserves" argument when in a corner, as if the holder of some superior knowledge. You did it on the last page when you know the answer is no - so why ask it at all?'"


I asked Dave the question of whether he'd been to the game or not. How am I meant he know he hadn't? I wasn't presuming anything. Of course it's an argument in a reserve watchers corner, they have actually seen the player in question play!

Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Like I said Ainscough's played more than enough first team games for anyone to know his strentgths and weaknesses in relation to other first teamers so the whole "have you seen him in the reserves" argument is redundant.'"


But unfortunately, form dips and performances in the reserve grade is a basis of whether your deemed ready for the first team or not. If you're playing well/poorly in the game or in certain criteria, it will affect whether you will be picked for the first team game. So viewing a players performance in reserves in NOT redundant.

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Quote: ABP' "For some reason you seem to accuse those who highlight that fact they've been to a reserve game that they are claiming to be better fans. This isn't the case, they are just in a better position to comment on a players form rather than somebody who only saw them in a first team game weeks earlier...Obviously?'"


I actually don't think they claim to be better fans (the whole Cat 1++++ thing was tongue in cheek) - well some probably do. I actually believe some think they have some superior knowledge on players and like to trot out the "have you seen him in the reserves" line.

Knowing the opinions of some on here who watch the reserves you assume way too much in terms of them being in a better position to judge anything, form or otherwise. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: NickyKiss "Wheather Ainscough should be the in the team fulltime i'm not so sure but i'd like to see him get a couple more opportunities before the seasons out. He's warrented a shot with his preformences so far and even though Noble prefares to go for the experience of Roberts on the right he can't totally overlook Ainscough and what he's achieved.

Nobby should pick him out some games where he'll come up against other midget wingmen to help him out
Agree with that.

But

Richards is scoring points for fum

Phelps is the only decent FB we have, performs are dropping slighty.

Roberts, yes couple of mistakes, but he's finally gaining that confidence back.

Ainsy should play this weekend! Prefect game for him

Phelps out

Roberts FB
Anisy
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards

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Quote: Mark1987 "Agree with that.

But

Richards is scoring points for fum

Phelps is the only decent FB we have, performs are dropping slighty.

Roberts, yes couple of mistakes, but he's finally gaining that confidence back.

Ainsy should play this weekend! Prefect game for him

Phelps out

Roberts FB
Anisy
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards'"


I would say Richards at FB and encourage him to come into the line more like Brent Webb does. I feel alot more secure with Pat at FB. Roberts is not as good positional wise or under the high ball although he may run the ball back well, field position should not be a problem against Celtic.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "IIn relation to Ainscough (which is after all what this is about) I've read nothing to suggest his form has completely collapsed since his house game of only scoring 4 tries at Wakey.

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You're right, it hasn't and he has in no way gone backwards since his first team spell.

However, his eye catching displays have forced the opposition pin point weaknesses in his game and they have exposed them which is hindsight is a good thing as he is at the correct age and position to work on them.

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Quote: ABP' "You're right, it hasn't and he has in no way gone backwards since his first team spell.

However, his eye catching displays have forced the opposition pin point weaknesses in his game and they have exposed them which is hindsight is a good thing as he is at the correct age and position to work on them.'"


Surely his weakness is not hard to fix, just swap him with his centre and he can block the defenders by standing his groud and then he can be first at the play the ball to get us moving forward.

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Quote: odemwingie "Surely his weakness is not hard to fix, just swap him with his centre and he can block the defenders by standing his groud and then he can be first at the play the ball to get us moving forward.'"


I mentioned that Noble should of done that, in the Wire game soon as Briers started to bomb him.

He can't do that week in week out, he as to develop and become confident under the hign ball, next time he plays, I'll expect him to at least leave the ground. Something that he's never done throughout his whole rugby career.

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Quote: odemwingie "Surely his weakness is not hard to fix, just swap him with his centre and he can block the defenders by standing his groud and then he can be first at the play the ball to get us moving forward.'"


If he is to be a world class winger (which he has the ability to be) then I'd like to think he'd be able work on any weaknesses he has rather than just covering them up. Then again, I'm not the coach.

Personally, I'd love to see Ainscough given another chance soon.

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