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| Obviously I will get shot down by the "Sun shines out of Lockers ar$e" brigade but the telling thing about tonight was the way we "ambled" to scrums when 14 points down.
The blame here lies firmly with the "Captain" <-------- What a laugh.
If ever he needed to earn his position it was tonight, and he failed AGAIN.
We need a bloody leader and Lockers is not it.
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| The players respect him more than anyone in the club i keep being told
Wane head coach
Farrell assistant
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "who would you (seriously) replace him with mid season?'"
The only current SL coach I'd consider pursuing is Justin Morgan. And now a Rovers fan will come on this board with some rubbish about him not wanting to join a rubbish club like Wigan.
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| Quote: Fly'in Scotsman "IMO unless we have a new caoch in mind, that will take the team forward we should stay with BN till the end of the season.'"
And just what purpose would that serve? If we continue as we are any knew coach will have a mountain to climb to get the teams confidence back up and playing again.
Noble needs to go now for the good of the team. The longer he stays the worse the players confidence will become.
Dave
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| There is no point in suggesting Nobby should go UNLESS someone better is available to take his place...there isn't one I can think of.
For me, the problem is with the players on the pitch, way too many average players and no leader.
No new coach could sort it any quicker or better than Nobby.
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SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2010
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010
FLOODLIT 9 CHAMPIONS 2010
U20's VALVOLINE GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2010
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
MAN OF STEEL 2010 - PAT RICHARDS
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| at the end of the day our season gone , finished we maze well wait till end of the season an let the board have a good look for some 1 instead of jumping in picking any 1
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| Quote: Saint Simon "who would you (seriously) replace him with mid season?'"
i would love to see justin morgan at wigan. i personally think he is one of the best in super league. we prised nobby away mid season from a very good bradford side. its not unrealistic but whether he would be a target, i dont know
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7007.jpg [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: flyingkelvin "There is no point in suggesting Nobby should go UNLESS someone better is available to take his place...there isn't one I can think of.
For me, the problem is with the players on the pitch, way too many average players and no leader.
No new coach could sort it any quicker or better than Nobby.'"
This argument has been put forward by many people this season, but to be honest we have now reached the stage where we don't even look like we are necessarily going to qualify for the top 8. Things can't get much worse. BN seems to have totally lost his way. The team is playing boring one-dimensional rugby and many players are underperforming.
The only possible mitigation for BN is that they aren't fit enough, which may not be BN's fault (not sure whether the backroom staff report in to him or IL?).
All in all though things are looking pretty desperate on all fronts. IL needs to get a grip - there's nothing to be lost at this stage by parting company with BN (other than some £, which may be what has prevented him going so far), since we don't look like qualifying for the play-offs at this rate...
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| it now seems we've reached the same point that we did with Millward, where the players confidence looks shot, they can't defend and they can't attack. And, players have been brought in who aren't good enough. About time we got rid of Noble and gave it to Wane on a temp basis until the end of the season.
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| IMO if BN goes, the whole lot have to go (except Wane). A full clear-out is needed to revitalise the club at the moment. We have got the players to be a top 3 side.
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "IMO if BN goes, the whole lot have to go (except Wane). A full clear-out is needed to revitalise the club at the moment. We have got the players to be a top 3 side.'"
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| Quote: Madderzahatter "it now seems we've reached the same point that we did with Millward, where the players confidence looks shot, they can't defend and they can't attack. And, players have been brought in who aren't good enough. About time we got rid of Noble and gave it to Wane on a temp basis until the end of the season.'"
We are now a third of the way into the season and we are making the same mistakes now as we where the first game in the season. There has been little or no improvement. In defence we get pulled out of shape time and time again and so easily at that. Attack just seems to be limited and they hope some one else can do it, pass and hope. As for the kicking game, we must put two half decent kick chase in per game. We don't do the basics right all the game. We played well for ten minutes today, then came crashing back down to earth. All comes down to poor coaching. Time has come for it to change. I would love a coach like Morgan to come in but it is not going to happen mid season. Give Wane the rest of the season and start looking. We ain't going anywhere with what we have.
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| Quote: flyingkelvin "There is no point in suggesting Nobby should go UNLESS someone better is available to take his place...there isn't one I can think of.'"
You appoint a caretaker coach such as Wane.
It is not rocket science. What you do not do if as chairman you have decided the coach is the problem is keep him on!
Quote: flyingkelvin "For me, the problem is with the players on the pitch, way too many average players and no leader.
No new coach could sort it any quicker or better than Nobby.'"
You seem to be forgetting Noble has had three years to sort it out and has quite simply failed. I am utterly baffled why you (or anyone else) have any faith in him to sort this out. He is part of the problem.
Dave
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| Quite simple Noble out Wayne in till the end of the season;
We won't make the playoffs with Noble in charge as we won't get better under him as I don’t think Noble has actually coached a team in regards to worked on their faults and tried to improve them. We’ve never had consistency under him nor have we played a type of rugby which inspires or lets the players take control.
We don’t have relegation either so no worries there.
Seriously what have we got to lose?
If Wayne fails so be it as we are going no where fast with Nobby anyway and we’ll know towards the end of the season if it’s working out or not meaning we can approach other coaches at the end of the season when it’s easier to get them.
Either way to continue down Nobles pathetic attempts at coaching should not be an option.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Just stop and think for a second.
Warrington fans got rid of Cullen eventually and that did what?
The simple fact is we need a prop and a halfback before you can blame the coach.'"
I admire your loyalty but wonder if you have problems with your eyes.
Tonight saw a team who used dummy runners and lads running basic angles tear us to bits. When we get near there line we have nothing, NOTHING!
Our defence is as bad as i have ever seen it, in a time when Millward was in charge and we were hammering the defensive plays his staff were coming up with they were far superior to what we are seeing at the moment, the problem them was although we were in a position to make the tackles we were too small and demotivated to do so, now we are not even in the position to make the tackles.
We have no plays going forward apart from a very basic fullback dummy on the angle when laying it out wide which does seem to work, but is soon sudded by our opposition, we have no centre field moves, we do not work off the ball and our defence is laughable.
At the end of the day the Coach must put his hand up and take responsibility for this and after 3 years in charge he has no excuses. He has painted himself into a corner with a recond of garbage performances, poor recruitment and retention policy and jobs for the boys mentality, one of the biggest fators that will ever ensure mediocrity at the best.
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