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| Dont rate Hansen at all. Never have. You can shove your stats where they dont shine cos they dont show the bigger picture.
He works hard in defence yes but offers nout else.
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| Quote: Alex BP' "Not how clue how you came to that conclusion.
Did I say that I came to that conclusion? I could argue it though particually as you are using words like "homies" which has a distict racial conataion to it, hence why I said I could argue...
Anyway, don't all players get to this stage where they are a good senior solid dependable player that do little wrong and may appear to be realxed in their position? I don't see why his racial background comes into his current attitude, becasue as you say he has fallen in with his "homies".
As it is, he has come through the accademy, proven himself at club and international level and is a solid clubv player who does little wrong and that may well be why he doesn't get dropped.
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| Quote: - Neil - "Dont rate Hansen at all. Never have. You can shove your stats where they dont shine cos they dont show the bigger picture.
He works hard in defence yes but offers nout else.'"
Err...thats EXACTLY what the stats show
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| Quote: Bovrick "Err...thats EXACTLY what the stats show
To be honest I didnt look at your stats but there are posters on here who swear by them...
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| Quote: alanpdodd "Did I say that I came to that conclusion? I could argue it though particually as you are using words like "homies" which has a distict racial conataion to it, hence why I said I could argue...
Anyway, don't all players get to this stage where they are a good senior solid dependable player that do little wrong and may appear to be realxed in their position? I don't see why his racial background comes into his current attitude, becasue as you say he has fallen in with his "homies".
As it is, he has come through the accademy, proven himself at club and international level and is a solid clubv player who does little wrong and that may well be why he doesn't get dropped.'"
Fair enough, but racism doesn't come into at all. I said 'homies' as the words stems from home-boys as in friends from back home whom Feka and Leuluai are to Hansen as they are from the area where he was born, Samoa/New Zealand.
Anyway, regardless if he's 'proven himself' at international level and how 'solid' he is...For me, isn't offering anymore then a defesive display. I'd like to see more attacking outside, attacking gaps and good hands. At the moment he is just focused on getting the ball and running direct at the defence without using his feet, brain or hands. He knows how to run angles, he has proven that in past season when attacking the trylines but if he more 20 yards away from the tryline, he's pretty ineffective.
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| Quote: Alex BP' "running direct at the defence without using his feet'"
I would keep him in the team just to see him do that every week!
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| Quote: odemwingie "Hanson is a quality player he does more than just tackle.
He runs some great lines and has no fear, he always puts the effort in, he is one of my favourite players as a fan.'"
You make sense, he does indeed. I would drop Coley for Mossop, he is tt scared of running the ball in, he runs sideways and softly softly into the line and then leg drives.
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| Quote: post "You make sense, he does indeed. I would drop Coley for Mossop, he is tt scared of running the ball in, he runs sideways and softly softly into the line and then leg drives.'"
I would agree with this also! Regardless of how well Coley is played in his last two games it still isn't good enough.
I think Hansen will be rested against Barrow anyway for the Saints game week after.
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| Hansen is taking the place of other players who could shine. given them a chance is all I ask, look how giving Tomkins and Ainscough as worked out for us.
I seriously don't have a dislike for Hansen, I just look for more ideas and go forward in players.
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| Quote: Bovrick " Tries
Hansen - 2
Hock - 3 1st
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Tomkins - 5/11/3 1st
Lockers - 9/14/10 3rd
Hock - 1+2+1+1+4+1+4 1st
Tomkins - 2+2+3+2+3+3+1 2nd
Lockers - 4+1+2+4+1+2+3 3rd
Hansen - 2+2+4+3+2+4+2 4th
Hansen dropped
I know your post isn't completely serious, but you can't just add up the rankings at the bottom like that - some of the rankings were for positive things (e.g. metres gained) and some for negative things (e.g. errors).
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| If Mossop/Flanny or Farrell stepped in, played a blinder and offer more than Hansen we'll all credit it as a good move.
Lets give one of them a chance, whoever is playing better obviously should get the nod.
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| Quote: roverspie "i'd rather drop coley.
he doesn't bring anything, let alone defensive qualities!'"
Give over. He was good on Friday and good against Salford. Ah well guess he'll always be used as a scapegoat but seriously he was good fielden and feka both played worse and coley's defence wasn't bad at all. I'd drop fielden before Coley at the moment.
Stop using him as a scapegoat. That's what we have Mathers for
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| In my opinion, Fielden is the one who is more at risk of being dropped, and I think it could be the kick up the backside that gets his season going. If Noble does drop him for Barrow, and possibly even Saints as well, it might make him realise that he has to do more than just put on the shirt each week to keep his place in the side, especially if he wants to be anywhere near the England squad at the end of the season.
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| Unfortunately we have more options to improve the back row than the front.
Feka-20min spells
Coley
Fielden
Prescott
O Carroll-Injured
Mossop? A SR pushed into prop. Not ideal to put in the front row against saints.
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