edited, etc

That's a fair comment - I'm sure many club's directors may have been cashing in whilst Rathbone and Hilton were coughing up.

Buffalo

I'm just joining in the debate. You were head and shoulders above everyone else for many years, due to a combination of high investment and good coaching. Since the introduction of a salary cap you've struggled to compete - fact.

I don't give a toss what Wigan get up to and certainly aren't obsessed with you. How often do you see me on here when you lose?!?!?!?!?!?!

You post as if what you're saying is some kind of revelation and then get all uppity when no-one goes 'Oh my God, this guy's a genius!' Jesus, Wigan were fighting relegation 2 seasons ago and if you'll bother to read the posts we can all see that the last couple of seasons we've not exactly set the game alight. Even on this thread people are posting that we're not good enough and won't win anything under the current coach or playing the way we are. What part of that are you struggling with? Oh, yes I see now...you just wanted to take a pop at Wigan and thought you'd dress it up as 'contributing to the debate'. Get a life, muppet!

Well make yer bloody mind up. First of all you're telling us we can't admit we're not top of the pile any more, now you don't give a toss?

Face facts, Wigan fans know the glory days are long gone. That's not even an issue and hasn't been for years. We can live with that, just as we can live with fans of other sides obsesseed with constantly ribbing us about it.

Still, at least we have the glory days to look back to...

Good night chaps - I look forward to seeing you playing at the LSV some time soon!!!!!!!

Thanks for proving that whilst we may have fallen on hard times recently fans of lesser clubs still hate and fear us.

wigan will come back things go in cycles dont they?
every dog has its day ect.
remember you have been in a much worse position , you have been in division 2 and of course there is no relegation now.
i had great admiration for the great wigan side of the 80s - 90s it looked like it was going to go on forever ,but was it a good thing all that expenditure you are not now in the great atmospheric central park ,leeds tried to follow suit trying to buy success and neary went bust and thus almost having to leave headingley.
wigan will be back all those wigan fans who have been there pre 1984 know this

eddie gordo you have gone from

[iYou had a good run when you were the only full time professional team [/i

then you decided

[iDuring the 80's and 90's Wigan had more money to spend than any other team, and you reaped the benefits - fair play to you[/i

And now you think

[iYou were head and shoulders above everyone else for many years, due to a combination of high investment and good coaching. [/i

You have not got a clue really , have you

3 games in and its a crisis. I saw you last week and questioned your fitness. But you could easily have beaten us. I have not seen the Wakefield and Cas games, but how is this season so far worst than the season you only just avoided relegation.?

You were p### poor that year yet you were all behind the team to a man. Or thats how it appeared. So far this year its a witch hunt against Nobby and its all doom and gloom. How and why is it any different in your minds.?

I can think why, but I may be accused of trolling and that is not the reason for my questions.

the question you have to ask is does he have the guts to drop big name players for outstanding youngsters that in all truth would die for the club.
he had the guts to drop coley after your first round defeat too us but me personally i would drop tim smith he offered nothing in creativity and its probably been said many a time letting higham go was a bad mistake just as i feel wakefield letting ferres go will come back to haunt wakefield.
you have no cohesion at the moment riddell doesnt look fit, smith looks uninterested surely he could give tomkins a start in a game it cant get much worse can it for you fans time to give him a go i feel.
one thing wigan must be commended on his there pricing plan 16 pound for away fans is outstanding to be seated it was 20 pound to stand at leeds and hull kr is 20 pounds to sit in a makeshift stand, its 18 pounds at wakefield so you offer the best deal in the league in my opinion