Could manfredi take the place of Burgess

are these stats online, and available for access ?

I would go with dropping Gelling & Burgess...installing Davies at left centre and bringing in Manfredi on the wing...that is two solid defenders and two work-a-holics with bringing us forward. Marshall 100% needs to replace Burgess, he will blossom outside of Gildart!

Not much movement with the props, can't really drop any of them but to say Wane was a prop and prides himself on his props, last night was god awful and those stats just compound what a lack of effort there was in the pack.

Burgess is really starting to grate on me tbh. I'm not sure if it's just me but there's an air of arrogance about him IMO but that needs to be earned and he's not doing it. There is no doubt in my mind that it's his place that should be under threat from Manfredi. To have two workaholics like Davies and Manfredi on the wings would be a nightmare for the opposition. Compare that to Burgess who is so easy to face at the moment.

Joe needs to be dropped. A spell at Swinton should sort him out.

With those sort of stats, how come Frank could still only manage 20 minute spells? Thank goodness he's leaving!

I am afraid we will see FPN's twin brother again for the next couple of weeks until the Final where undoubtably he will raise his effort for one last time and we get to see the player we thought we were signing.

I wouldn't play Bateman until the final, the kid is killing himself compared to some of his fellow teammates and I worry for him particularly late in games when others are being taken out of the firing line and he is still chucking his body about in attack and defence whilst looking shattered. Wane seems to have forgotten that he has also had a serious injury and needs to be protected from himself more than anything.

Quote: William Melvin Hicks "are these stats online, and available for access ?'" Yeah they're always on the games page on the super league site www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... port/50330 - scroll down to find them.

Quote: William Melvin Hicks "are these stats online, and available for access ?'" Yeah they're always on the games page on the super league site www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... port/50330 - scroll down to find them.

To be fair last week he tweeted that it wasn't a good personal performance for him so he at least acknowledges he's in bad form. It needs managing carefully as dropping him could have permanent affects or he'll just sod off back to the NRL.

I don't know why you would want to move Davies when he's excelling in his current position. It could be a master stroke but I think with the form he's in at the minute just leave him where he is. I wouldn't mind Manfredi taking Gelling's place though.

Tbh, I wasn't sure Manfredi would or could fit into centre and I was thinking longer term, Manfredi is a winger and given pre-injury form, one of the best in the league, his future lies on the left wing no where else, whereas I was thinking that a switch for Davies to left centre now would and could be a masterstroke...he could well be a Watkins type player, a combination of Manfredi & Davies at 2 & 3 could be our most effective moving forward for the next 2-3 years?


For next year...

1. Escare
2. Manfredi
3. Davies
4. Gildart
5. Burgess/Marshall

Presuming a swift to the halves for Sam.

I can't see that they'll be queuing up, on current form.

When you say 'left wing' and 'left centre' there, do you mean right wing and right centre?

Yes, sorry...

I don't get this idea why people think that wingers can just switch to centre and be good to go - centre is a specialist position (Burgess in the centre as an example - Pat Richards was tried there and failed ) as a cover maybe but as a starting idea not a chance. Far too often we have gone with the idea of playing someone who is not a specialist at centre and it does not work - look how much better Gildart plays compared the rights centres we have tried this season - and it is obvious.