Nothing I like josh but he won't be kicking for us next year will he ! And letting matty smith carry on trying is not an option I know Sam has kicked a few but we need a proper kicker or it will come back to bite us

Where you at the game?

Anyone who was will know how and why those early kicks were so difficult.

I can't remember too many games (if any) where it's cost us since Pat left.

No we don't.

The first 3 tries were scored near to the touchline the goal kicks were right near the edge of the playing area which were there was a perimeter fence 6 foot from the touchline

Dont forget the physio walking through the kick, hang on that was a Charnley kick.

You must either be a WUM, Leeds or Saints fan. It's glaringly obvious we need a regular kicker but you pick a game where Charnley kicks 7 goals. Jog on you mug

Looking at Matty's averages over the last 3 seasons - I'm guessing they are SL games only as they are from that site - his average is 72.5% this season 71% 2015 and 70% 2014.
The top 3 kickers' averages this season are Syned 80% Richards 74% Walsh 81%. Last season Sinfield 85% Gale 78% Dureau 82%. A top team should be generating 160 - 170 kicks per season so an average of 70% would cost us 17 goals over a season as against an 80% one. Of course these could be in a meaningless thrashings or a sudden death playoff, but I would certainly prefer going into a big match with an 80% kicker than a 70% one.

What was he doing he just appeared seemingly out of nowhere

Despite it being sunny the wind was a huge factor and it was against Matty on those first two kicks, which made it impossible. Matty seemed to lose confidence after that and handed it over to Josh, who did well after missing one exactly like Matty's two.

I would let Powell have a go for now.

In all of our games against Leeds last season they scored four more points than us which was just one try more with the kicking ratio the same. Phil Clarke quoted this fact on Sky so I'm pretty sure it will be accurate.

If you've watched Pat Richards this season his kicking has been very streaky. I'm not sure what we can do about it, because getting a specialist kicker like Mantellato for example may solve one problem but create another, because he isn't good enough to get in the team. And his kicking ratio isn't that much better than Matty in any case.

josh is leaving and you seriously think matty smith is a good goal kicker and you call me a mug you stupid f**k

I'll ask again, as you conveniently didn't answer. Did you go yesterday?

Did you see Pat Richards licking on Friday night?

yes i did go as i do every week home and away and if you look at the time of my post it was just after matty smith missed his second kick and before josh took over the kicking duty's
and no i did not see pat Richards LICKING on Friday what was he licking ???
and are your trying to tell me you are happy with matty keeping the kicking duty's for the club for the next few years ?

As I've said before. people who are widely regarded as 'good' kickers often have career averages only around 72,73%. People like Cam Smith, Jamie Lyon...

People who can kick 78-80% in the long run are a vanishingly small group: Sinfield, JT, Croker...