Hansen has been the most under rated player at Wigan for the last five years.

I always say about Hansen in that he's a Mick Cassidy replica. Both of them did/do such consistent jobs but half the time you never even notice. Every succesful team needs what I would call "job men" like those two.

I think you are doing Hansen a bit of a disservice with the title of "job men". It implies they are somehow just grafters lacking skill whereas Hansen is one of the best 2nd rows in the league.

Tommy used to be the worst offender, though he's been better this year.

Doctor, I need help, I'm agreeing with DaveO.

I would have put Hansen in the Cassidy mould until these past couple of seasons when IMO he's gone past that honest grafter stage. The weight he's put on has turned him into a physical and aggressive second row that's battering people during games in a way Cassidy wasn't able to.

The thing is I thought Cassidy was brilliant as well so it probably shows how highly I rate Hansen at this moment.

He has been one of my favourite players ever since he broke into the first team. He has always had good footwork and has always made good runs. I think I remember Barrett once saying he runs some of the best lines out of anyone he has played with. He has been unlucky at times with injury and I was a bit disappointed when he was out of favour with Noble at one stage.He has always had a massive work rate, but his extra weight has helped him be even more robust when taking us forward.

I'd like Farrell to go progress the same as H, both not the tallest both both run some excellent lines. Farrell with a bit more weight and power would be devastating.

Wigan are going for height where they can get it.
Geeling signed and now Thornley. One 6'5" the other 6'4".
Jack Hughes being played at centre is simply keeping up to SL game speed.
He will overtake Tuson and maybe Farrell in the next two years. He's tall, skillful and pacey for a forward, just right for a back rower.

On a side not I've been a little disappointed with Farrel this year. He had a quiet 2011 through his own admission, perhaps suffering from second season syndrome. But I thought he'd really kick on in 2012 from where he left off in his debut year. Sadly that's not been the case.

He started the season in excellent form but a couple of niggly injuries have cut his progress.

I can't help but feel him and Tuson are suffering from a lack of minutes. Theyre both feeding off scraps in a sense and are both probably suffering from not only the form of Hock and Hansen but also the fact that both and not just one of them are being selected. They're pinching each others minutes in a way.

One thing Farrell needs to work on though is his collision. He's not dominating tackles and I could see Wane becoming frustrated.

Fair point.

When I get home I going to watch the match again and take note of how many minutes Farrel and Tuson receive. I'll do the same each and every week now to the best of my abilities. I'm intrigued to see just how many minutes their both getting.

IIRC Madge dropped Farrel more than once because of Liam's inability to stick and hold in the tackle. It's something he really ought to have mastered by now.

Madge put Faz and Goulding in "Tough Club", seems to have done the trick with Goulding, but as you say not with Faz.