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Won't beat aussies with Sinfield at 6.
1 - Sam
2 - Charnley
3 - Reed
4 - Yeaman
5 - Briscoe
6 - Widdop
7 - Chase
8 - Morley
9 - Roby
10 - Graham
11 - Ellis
12 - Westwood
13 - Sinfield
14 - Carvell
15 - Bailey/Griffin
16 - JJB
17 - Mossop
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I wanted to see Widdop/Sam at 6.
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i'd have widdop 6, sinfield on bench, JJB or wilkin for another prop. plus may swap Morley for someone else. But other than that totally agree with the head coach
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Widdop or Sam at 6.
Sinfield at 13.
4 props in the 17.
Something like:
Sam/Widdop
Hall Reed Yeaman Briscoe
Sam/Widdop Chase
Morley Roby Graham
Ellis Heightington
Sinfeld
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Carvell Peacock Westwood Wilkin
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Widdop or Sam at 6.
Sinfield at 13.
4 props in the 17.
Something like
Exactly that team for me. Though can I ask why you have Sam/Widdop at 1 or 6. Sam has played a full season at fullback and Widdop has played a full season at stand off (well 5/8th  ). Why would you consider swapping them for the internationals?
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Won't beat Aussies with Widdop at 6.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Won't beat Aussies with Widdop at 6.'"
It's highly unlikely but we stand more of a chance with Widdop at 6 than Sinfield, Widdop is the second best player in that England team in my opinion. |
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Can't pick the team I would want to play because half the best players are not in the squad given banana's frankly pants selections - picking from the current squad though the best team we could pick is as follows IMO;
1. Sam
2. Hall
3. Reed
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Widdop
7. Chase (begrudgingly as we have no other scrum halves FFS!!)
8. Peacock
9. Sinfield
10. Graham
11. Wilkin
12. Westwood
13. EDIT: Ellis
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14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Carvell
17. Jones-Bishop
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steve, if you choose to have 3 props in the team against Aus/NZ then you should just kill yourself
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| Quote: gerr'emonside "Can't pick the team I would want to play because half the best players are not in the squad given banana's frankly pants selections - picking from the current squad though the best team we could pick is as follows IMO;
1. Sam
2. Hall
3. Reed
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Widdop
7. Chase (begrudgingly as we have no other scrum halves FFS!!)
8. Peacock
9. Sinfield
10. Graham
11. Wilkin
12. Westwood
13. Heightington
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14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Carvell
17. Jones-Bishop'"
No Gareth Ellis ? surely that must be a mistake Wilkin isn't half as good. |
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| I'm not looking forward to this series at all.
If we lose by less than 30 points against the Aussies with that line up, I'd be amazed.
We have a respectable, if not brilliant, pack but our backs are just so ordinary. Only Tomkins is up to international class and he's playing way off his peak because he's injured/contemplating RU.
We always used to say that the thing about the Aussies was that they have strength in depth and could pick another 17 that was almost as good as the first team. Sadly we can now say the same about England, but it's mediocrity in depth, I'm afraid.
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I seriously think Ben Westwood would be a revelation at prop against the Aussies, I think he should have a bash at prop
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| Quote: TrentBarrett "No Gareth Ellis ? surely that must be a mistake Wilkin isn't half as good.'"
According to the BBC Wilkin is claiming to be in the form of his life.
rlhttps://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/15290003.stmrl
I should really have a dig at him, but I can't muster the enthusiasm even to take the p%ss out of a Stains player.
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| Quote: TrentBarrett "No Gareth Ellis ? surely that must be a mistake Wilkin isn't half as good.'"
 Forgot he'd picked Ellis in the squad - In which case id drop heightingon for him....looks alot stronger then. |
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| Quote: Deano G "According to the BBC Wilkin is claiming to be in the form of his life.
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I should really have a dig at him, but I can't muster the enthusiasm even to take the p%ss out of a Stains player.
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The thing with Wilkin is he's a decent SL player but he isn't international standard and thinks he's Wally Lewis instead of a 2nd rower.
You get JJB who isn't the best 2nd rower in the world but he will graft and put big hits in and play hard, I just think Wilkin is a 'cherry on the cake' sort of player where he would stand out playing for a good side but isn't good enough on his own to make much of a difference against the Aussies and Kiwis.
I think his bench spot should be used instead on Carvell, Griffin or Bailey, someone with a bit of 'sshyit' in em to ruffle the Aussies.
People may laugh at Bailey but when he starts acting the prat it ruffles the opposition and I think that's something we need to do against the Aussies, if we go out to play a normal game of Rugby League against the Aussies we will get stuffed but if we 'put it up em' we stand half a chance.
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