It's probably harsh to blame Noble solely for today's shambles, but f*ck it I'm going to do it anyway.

If this guy get's another year then Lenagan needs to give his head a shake.

I think we must have had the same game plan as we did against Catalan in our last semi!

Give the opposition a large advantage then try to win the game in the 2nd half.

Didn't work then, certainly didn't work today ... all that illustrates is that we learned nothing from that semi defeat a few years back.

It has taken a long time for teams to totally target Feka in defence like Wire did today. Seeing how it affected his go forward expect a lot of teams to do exactly the same given the chance.

As for playing two players just back from injury it does beggar belief.

Sadly the best team won even though it hurts to say that.

Personally i thnk Roberts should be given one more game before he's dropped. To be fair King is a lot taller and he had no protection for either of the tries. ATM, Ainscough and Roberts both have weaknesses, so i'm not sure who should start to be honest. Oh, and when is Martin gleeson going ot start earning his money. Another anonymous performance by him today...

Son't get me wrong, the better team did win, but that was a lame performance by us...

Out of the two I would play Ainscough. Ok his defence is pretty pants but he has scores a shed load of tries in the games he has played for the first team.

we lost today because T Smith game plan was excellent. Run at Feka tire him out, run around him at marker make easy yards. it is not rocket science, I thought Lockers had a good game as did bailey till he went off injured. the fact is we have no decent props:

prescott: knockonathon
Fielden: could not break out of a paper bag let alone a tackle
Coley: not a prop a good second row
Feka: please leave you contribute nothing apart from tries for the opposition

If we do not sign a prop for next season and a decent half back to partner tompkins so tommy can move to 9 next season will be the same. fact is Lenaghan said from day the salary cap is goosed until end of 2010 and there is nothing we can do.

Fair enough, but you're blindly assuming that he'd continue to score tries at that rate, and on the opposite wing?

Or are you suggesting moving pat to roberts side (most of pats trys have come while playing off carmont)?

Do you honestly think it's just a case of put ainscough in and we'll score loads of trys, if you do then I think you're in for a huge disappointment and would hope you'd not join the bandwagon that would no doubt spring up to destroy ainscough - after all, the vitriolic little gits would need somebody else to blame then.

No I don't but it does seem that it's 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for another. But hey Roberts has had 3-4 good games for us this season.

I personally think he's had more than 3 or 4 (but that's just my opinion and not necessarily other peoples)

I personally thought ainscoughs try haul was flattering to him, and he hadn't been fantastic in all the games he player (and again that's just my opinion)

It's a team sport and there aren't any quick easy answers, or any guarentees that things would be different if we'd play player X

Your best players, especially the forwards are your young lads ie. Flanagan, Joel Tomkins. The senoir players are the let-downs especially Feka & Fielden. BUT as long as Nobby is in charge Fielden will be in the 17 no matter how bad he plays! Too much like best pals, not player & coach.

Roberts is awful. Why have we signed him for 4 years! 2 years at most, a year to settle and second to play for a contract. Now it looks like we're stuck with a donkey who can't attack or defend. He bombed at least one try and didn't even have the foresight to attempt to stop the ball going out of play.

I'd much rather have Ainscough in the team; a far better attacking threat and tbh much better in defence too and at least he actually cares and has some pride.

Smith got it right with the way he played King. Run straight at the channel where Tomkins stands, tie up Gleeson with dummy runners so he can't fill in and that just leaves Roberts to help.

Big man v small man wins most of the time

I think Bailey going off didn't help and Sam is usually a good defender but tackling King on the burst was too much for him

I won't be suprised to see other teams in the future use the same tactics against us

King only made real ground when Bailey went off. We need a big 2nd row to play right side defence with Gleeson to protect Sam T & Roberts.