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i feel this is englands strongest team
1.tomkins
2.mcgilvary
3.clubb
4.tomkins
5.briscoe
6.lomax
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.oloughlin
subs
14.robinson
15.crabtree
16.burgess
17.morley

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Quote: arliebird "i feel this is englands strongest team
1.tomkins
2.mcgilvary
3.clubb
4.tomkins
5.briscoe
6.lomax
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.oloughlin
subs
14.robinson
15.crabtree
16.burgess
17.morley'"



Hmmmmm

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Quote: arliebird "i feel this is englands strongest team
1.tomkins
2.mcgilvary
3.clubb
4.tomkins
5.briscoe
6.lomax
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.oloughlin
subs
14.robinson
15.crabtree
16.burgess
17.morley'"


No its not.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



I pointed out on the VT that the team we will pick at the end of the year will be very different, the strongest we can pick now is nowhere near as strong as what we can pick at the end of the season. I think this is a fair evaluation personally...

Brough will no doubt replace Myler who is a good support player but rubbish at this level, even wire fans can see that. Brough has an awesome kicking game and will control the play as well as being creative.

Roby will play instead of McIlorum. McIlorum does the job and will never let anyone down but he is not ready for this level YET. Roby is one of the top hookers in the world and is always superb at international level.

Burgess and Ellis will play. An argument could be made that these are Englands two best players, they play with the worlds best week in week out and are now two of the best back rowers in the NRL while Burgess can also play prop.

Widdop will probably play at 6 or FB... he should play 6 IMO. He has looked quality for Melbourne this year, he could easily hide behind Cronk, Slater and Smith but he never does.

Adding these 5 players to that starting 13 improves the team by a long way IMO.

Finally you also have Hock who will no doubt put his hand up with the amount of talent he has... maybe if we are lucky he has found half a brain cell in his two years out. You also have Crabtree who didn't play in this game and has always performed for England.

On an extra note I thought Joel Tomkins had a good game and has looked awesome for Wigan at centre IMO. He should be in contention there, he reads the game well and has loads of pace for a big guy, nobody got near him. Shenton looked like he was running in treacle.

After these players have been added we could end up with something like this....

Tomkins
Hall
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Morley
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Lockers

Westwood - Englands MOM made for internationals.
Robinson

Both should be on the bench IMO they deserve it. Then we have a list of players in the running for the final bench spot after Crabtree who also deserves it.

Mossop
Hock
Griffin
LMS
J Tomkins - if he doesn't make the centre position.

Players like Myler, Sinfield and Wilkin should not be in the team. Sinfield could play 9 if needed but not if we are at full strength.

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[quote="Rob Wire":qtnftxzx]WIGAN ARE BACK to what exactly ? Oh i see what you mean, back to beating weakened teams. How many key players did we have missing in the cup ? Just remind us again how many key players did Saints have missing in last years grand final ? When did you actually last beat a strong Saints or Warringtom team ? Don't include beating us last year at the HJ, we had a lead of around 14pts and were cruising then we lost both Briers and Monaghan, another example of Wigan capitalising on other teams misfortunes.[/quote:qtnftxzx] [color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx][list:qtnftxzx]Gotta' love 'em.[/list:u:qtnftxzx][/color:qtnftxzx] [color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx]"You can shove yer f****** England up yer a***"[/color:qtnftxzx]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51917.jpg



Quote: arliebird "agree toatally giving england 3 very tough high profile matches throughtout the season in which we dont have.'"


And at the different stages of the season, would allow us to assess our improvements and how the team has developed.

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I was hoping for a bit more "spice" if i am being honest. I know that everyone involved heavily mentioned the "mate v Mate" factor, but apart the whole affair was flat.

Tommy L v Micky Mac should have seen them trying to demolish each other, but i don't recall any real fire from that majority of players.

I am glad in a funny way that the Exiles won the game, only because it will bring a bit more interest to the next game.

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The game lacked some intensity; if there was a chance to even the score in a couple of weeks that game would be a step up again. A three game series or best of three with a 2-0 meaning no last game would up the anti. The players for both teams will change so much by next year no any bad feelings or desire to settle the score will be lost.

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Quote: That's something we'll talk to the clubs about, "The Rugby Football League has insisted it will look at holding next year's Origin International as a stand-alone fixture.

With the top four clubs, who provided 23 of the 34 players involved in the England-Exiles clash at Headingley, all failing to win there has been a host of calls for a change in the fixtures.

Warrington and Huddersfield suffered shock defeats by lowly Salford and Wakefield respectively while Wigan and St Helens drew at Castleford and Bradford.

And although the RFL are keen to make the Origin International an annual fixture, they could now organise a blank weekend to help the clubs.

"That's something we'll talk to the clubs about," said RFL chairman Richard Lewis.

"We all know it's a crowded calendar but I think the match deserves some space in the fixture list if we can get it. But it's not easy."'"


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Encouraging. Good to see the RFL listen to the fans, players and coaches.
I know it brings in money but I'd like to see an end to the Magic weekend and the play-offs reduced to top six.

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Quote: Catalancs "Encouraging. Good to see the RFL listen to the fans, players and coaches.
I know it brings in money but I'd like to see an end to the Magic weekend and the play-offs reduced to top six.'"


I like the weekend away though.. even if the games are a bit daft icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: Mr.Side "I like the weekend away though.. even if the games are a bit daft Wembley.

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Quote: Odemwingie "I pointed out on the VT that the team we will pick at the end of the year will be very different, the strongest we can pick now is nowhere near as strong as what we can pick at the end of the season. I think this is a fair evaluation personally...

Brough will no doubt replace Myler who is a good support player but rubbish at this level, even wire fans can see that. Brough has an awesome kicking game and will control the play as well as being creative.

Roby will play instead of McIlorum. McIlorum does the job and will never let anyone down but he is not ready for this level YET. Roby is one of the top hookers in the world and is always superb at international level.

Burgess and Ellis will play. An argument could be made that these are Englands two best players, they play with the worlds best week in week out and are now two of the best back rowers in the NRL while Burgess can also play prop.

Widdop will probably play at 6 or FB... he should play 6 IMO. He has looked quality for Melbourne this year, he could easily hide behind Cronk, Slater and Smith but he never does.

Adding these 5 players to that starting 13 improves the team by a long way IMO.

Finally you also have Hock who will no doubt put his hand up with the amount of talent he has... maybe if we are lucky he has found half a brain cell in his two years out. You also have Crabtree who didn't play in this game and has always performed for England.

On an extra note I thought Joel Tomkins had a good game and has looked awesome for Wigan at centre IMO. He should be in contention there, he reads the game well and has loads of pace for a big guy, nobody got near him. Shenton looked like he was running in treacle.

After these players have been added we could end up with something like this....

Tomkins
Hall
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Morley
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Lockers

Westwood - Englands MOM made for internationals.
Robinson

Both should be on the bench IMO they deserve it. Then we have a list of players in the running for the final bench spot after Crabtree who also deserves it.

Mossop
Hock
Griffin
LMS
J Tomkins - if he doesn't make the centre position.

Players like Myler, Sinfield and Wilkin should not be in the team. Sinfield could play 9 if needed but not if we are at full strength.'"


Did you mean to miss Graham out?

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Quote: Catalancs "Wembley.'"


MK Dons stadium!!

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I wonder if McNamara has heard of Jack Reed.

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Quote: Catalancs "I wonder if McNamara has heard of Jack Reed.'"


Indeed, we need to do a Widdop with him.

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