No chance unfortunately!

Makinson is heir apparent to Wellens for the FB position, with Adam Swift looking a great prospect for Meli's wing spot. Looking likely Turner & Jones in centres, with Gaskell an obvious choice at stand off for Hohaia, and thats not including the likes of Percival or Wheeler/Foster.

I want a bit of experience in the pack, Forster, Walker & Greenwood will be the next few young forwards to get a look in, but Manu will prove a great signing for us, with Walmsley added to the props.

Not sure where you come up these stories Rogues, how often do you watch Saints academy? Twice a year?
Youve no doubt including the likes of Gardner in youre numbers who probably wont get a look in. Nice try tho mate, concentrate on stemming youre mass exodus instead.

Swift is no more than average.
No prop forwards in the academy at all.
Greenwood looks a decent prospect, but not quite as good as his brother.

Gaskell, will he still be at Saints, Rush doesn't rate him.

Numbers - Wellens, Meli, Hohia (30 next year), Perry, Puletua, Laffranchi, Manu, (I'd forgot about Gardner)

Will all these great Saints kids turn out to be like Tyrer, Scott Moore, Magennis, Ashurst, Dixon, Emmitt etc?
And of course Jamie Foster.

Doesn't matter, he was a spent force at that point, wouldn't do anything for warrington.

Sorry, for some reason I thought he got banned from the league.

Anyone who tries to run a sports club like they would an ordinary business is on a hiding to nothing and your post is the first one I have ever seen to imply it should cover costs on infrastructure such as shops by selling players. That is bonkers IMO.

It is also equally bonkers to fund the recruitment of average players like Smith and players who are merely good prospects in Green and Taylor by selling arguably the best British back row forward in the game who seems to be at his peak. There is nothing wrong with the club being run on business lines day to day but if we need to buy the likes of Smith, Green and Taylor we need to be in a position to do so without having to sell one of the clubs best players. If the "business" can't afford that on its own we need a chairman who can fund it himself.

That said I'd be very surprised if the Hock sale has anything to do with it being a necessity to raise cash. I think you are barking up the wrong tree with this line of reasoning.

seems gary hetherington has definitely jumped in the Parramatta Eels boat with all this happenings and has spoken to them regarding a centre.

I hope it isn't Willie Tonga.

Tonga?

I called it on here the other day that this move would not only weaken us but potentially strengthen our rivals if any Parra players moved here.

Leeds and Hull were the 2 clubs I mentioned.

Crazy business this by Wigan...from a playing point of view anyway and that's all the fans care about.

If Hetherington is after a centre from Parramatta it's probably more to do with Folau repotedly going there and less to do with Hock. With Will Hopoate joining them in 2014 too Parra does seem the obvious place to shop for a 3/4.

It's obviously a numbers game in terms of positions but the salary cap also comes in to it. They need to find space for Folau 'and' Hock and look to be trying to offload a player or two.

If they're good players(which Tonga is if it proves to be him they offload) and end up at clubs over here, other then Wigan then we've taken a hit on 2 counts.

This Hock move could blow up in our faces in spectacular fashion if we're not careful.

It's simple, we offload him now and get some cash or we keep him here and let him start knocking about with his 'old mates'.

Win, win for both parties and hats off to Hock for having the balls to leave the club he loves, his family and so on to get rid of his demons.

I have no issues with this move 'if' that is what is motivating it but we simply must go and spend any money we receive ASAP because the squad isn't strong enough at the moment.

With Hock I thought we looked strong but lacked depth in the outside back positions...Without Hock we lack depth in the backs and the pack suddenly looks like it's got no cutting edge. We have a workmanlike pack and are a couple of injuries away from a crisis in the outside backs.

Signings are a must if Hock goes.

According to a Parra Forum the Hock deal is nailed on,but will not be announced until after the election of members for the Parra board, which is to take place in the next week.
Just another rumor though.

If we could have the right of first refusal on some Eels Centres/Props in addition to some cash, that'd suit me fine.