He's a Hapless Buffoon - Simple!!

No its not. He had absolutely no need to put so many young players in the side at once. The idea he had to do this to see how they would go is ridiculous.



The fact we let slip an 18 point lead had far more to do with the fact most of the on-field leaders were sat in the stand than anything else.

You simply can not take the leading players out and expect it to have no detrimental effect. The fact on paper Wane may have thought that team was capable of winning was very naive and not something I'd expect of a 1st grade coach. You don't just fling a team together like that and have it click and play as a team. People seem surprised we let an 18 point lead slip. Well I would be as well if it was the first team playing but given the side that was out there I don't understand why people are surprised it could not keep its composure.

It is just not on for the senior players who were out there such as Hock and Finch to be expected to carry that many inexperienced players for 80 minutes. No wonder Finch stormed off at the end. He was probably as disgusted with Wane's selection as most of the fans.

As to injuries Wane has said we had a couple but that he also wanted to play the young players which is what he did. He will hopefully have learned that all he should have done is replace the couple of injured players, not rip the backbone out of the side.

Why did Finch storm off, anyone know ? I have also read on another thread that Finch has decided to go back 'downunder'.

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By far and away the best post on the subject.

well said especially the last section!

As some have said best post in the subject by a long way.

Spot on.

Some good posts on here pointing out the flaws in SW's approach, particularly Cadoo's.

However BK is correct when he points out that it doesn't matter a great deal that we've lost an early season game (unless you think being minor premiers/winning the hubcap is important). Leeds showed that last season.

What does matter is that SW learns from his mistakes and doesn't do things like this at the business end of the season - we need a settled side in the run up to the play-offs.

No one is arguing against rotating players and resting them. He could have spread it over Widnes and Broncos and got 4 points whilst still resting players. Problem is he rested so many in one game it cost us the game and 2 points. Even Easter Monday we have Wakey home a great chance to rest 1 or 2 and give 2 young players a run out. Throwing 2 points away is just daft.

Leeds did not actively rotate players all season that's a point some do not real grasp. They were out with serious injuries They all came back fit by mid July. Something Bradford did a few years ago as well.

I agree fully about Wane seeming to focus too much on Maguires reign and he seems to want to make a firm point about doing things differently. He has obviously kept a lot of the same structures in place and in attack I think he's improved us but he should just let the results do the talking.

Talk like " Michael did a great job but I think we can do better" is all well and good but you are setting yourself up for a fall when you make mistakes like yesterday. The good thing for Wane though is minus his brain fart things have looked pretty rosy and we look well capable of challenging for all trophies again. We infact look a lot more capable then I thought we would.

Just please no more meltdowns of yesterday's proportions!

That bit .

5th is acceptable but I'd prefer 1st .


Well done to your young lads by the way. By most accounts they put in a good effort against a team of far more experienced players . Losing a game to the new boys ain't the end of the world , but I am thankful that is was you and not us that were the first victims .

Wane's a new coach. He probably went a bit too far with the kids. But not much - you lost by 1 point and should have won anyway. He knows as well as anyone that having just one of the rested players on the bench would have made a difference if needed.

I don't expect a coach to necessarily come out and say "I was wrong" either - you might want them to think it to themselves, but around the players I'm not sure its a good idea.

I'd also add that I think a few clubs are looking more seriously at rotation this year - probably as a direct result of Leeds peaking at the end of the season and the fact that Wigan seemed to run out of steam a bit. Wane overdid it, and a loss is always a loss, but hopefully he'll learn from it.

it must be true then