if yas could replace mathers with any full back who would it be?

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

He's not much of a defender, but then neither is Mathers. And at least Ashton knows his way to the line - from virtually anywhere on the field. Would I take him back? Erm, yes - no question.

Your right when you say he isn't a good defender, but neither is he a bad one. He linked into the attacking play superbly when he was at Wigan. That said, I'm still hoping Mathers will prove everyone wrong this season, however unlikely that may seem.

I'd live up to our names and eat humble pie.

I'd take him back.

how many threads have we seen about coleys dire performance ? none
yet mathers get strips torn off him again after just 1 game of 09 ?

its been said the fans allways have a boo boy , and mathers is defo it , some of it being totally unjustified at times ,

from the way this board has gone this week you would think mathers was at fault for every try wakey scored , all the ball we dropped , the lack of moves , the lack of direction and leadership etc etc

lets get things into perspective

Completely agree.

Coley was average at best last season, and in some parts just dire. The only thing he had going for him was that he was ever-present. Mathers, although some he does deserve, is officially Wigan RL Fans boo boy. An unjustified tag IMHO.

practice what you preach then your one of the worsed mate

Chris Ashton was really a one off talent. If he had stayed and worked on his defence he could of easily become one of the best fullbacks around. His attacking game was awesome.

Do we still hold Ashtons RL registration ??? I've been told we do.

Search Richard Moore on youtube. He actually runs away from him.

Sorry no thanks - even if you ignore the rumours about him disrupting training sessions he seemed to just give up when he had signed for Northampton.

His head was turned by Northampton and the £££. The training sessions and lack of effort came after that. Whilst unforgivable it could be forgotten if he came back and his defence was sorted. His attack was potentially world class.

In his time at Wigan one player has performed several cowardly acts, one highlighted again on Sunday with the trip, the worst was the hit on Matt King.

Newton performed a cowardly act on Long just like Pryce has done in the past.

If players perform cowardly acts why should they not be highlighted?

Agree that his head was turned by Northampton and the reported salary he was offered. He went to pot after that.
So was Karl Pryce's too, he was pretty poor after he realised what union were offering.
He's a talented lad and scored one of the best Wigan tries at KR for a long while some years ago.
Is he still out of the Union first team?
I do hope Wigan have his registration.
Would I have him back? Yes without question!
Be good if he came back after their season ends, if not before!

I gave him a chance last year and still hoped this year that he would find his feet , but when he bottled it when they kicked through that was it for me the ball was not even 50/50 . He should be dropped for that alone fullback is a vital role he is one of the weakest I've seen in the shirt wish it was not true but it is . I will not boo the team or a player and I wont cheer ironically at him catching a bomb but he's shot as a player at the moment and should not play .....simple .