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| Quote: The Reaper "Walmsley and Paasi are contracted for next year so not much we can do there, as are Batchelor and Whitley but we definitely need a prop. A lot of the problem comes from the management of the pack more than it needing an overhaul I’d say. Sticking Matautia at centre when he’s not very good there but is great at 2nd row (and has even done well as a prop!), sticking with Batchelor and Whitley together despite neither playing particularly well. And the big one is continuing to start Lees and Delaney together despite both being fairly light and neither being a metre making kind of prop just has us starting on the back foot time and time again. That’s happened multiple times too so it’s just Wellens not learning his lesson
It’s hard to know how much of this is down to the players or whether it’s Wellens coaching them. Paasi and Batchelor are shadows of the players they were last year. Both have had big injury problems of course, so I guess we’ve got to hope they’ll come back better after a full pre season as neither really had one this year. Walmsley hasn’t been as good this year either, although he’s still shown plenty and had some really good games so I wouldn’t write him off yet.
Ultimately though I think the problem is Wellens. He seems incapable of changing a game plan mid-way through a game and his original gameplan never works against the big teams. if one or 2 players lose form then ok maybe it’s him, but the vast majority of our squad have gone backwards over the last 2 years and it’s not all down to age'"
What are Saints fans thinking with Delaney currently? He was lauded coming through but I always just thought he looked like Mark Edmondson had made a comeback. He is as game as they come but his running style lends itself to getting bashed about the place and that quickly takes its toll. On the other hand, Stephens is looking the real deal. He doesn't look much of an athlete but he is so awkward to tackle and is very very rarely getting dominated.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "What are Saints fans thinking with Delaney currently? He was lauded coming through but I always just thought he looked like Mark Edmondson had made a comeback. He is as game as they come but his running style lends itself to getting bashed about the place and that quickly takes its toll. On the other hand, Stephens is looking the real deal. He doesn't look much of an athlete but he is so awkward to tackle and is very very rarely getting dominated.'"
He’s struggled a bit this year albeit I think he’s improved over the last few weeks. Apparently he’s been playing on with a knee problem for a lot of the year so could explain his downturn somewhat. Doing better in contact now he’s stopped turning his back going into contact. Unless he adds some weight, he’s more than likely going to be another Matty Lees rather than a big metre eating prop. I think he’s going to be a good player but probably not the level of which his early reputation suggested. Still only 20 though I believe so plenty of time on his side.
I agree about Stephens, he’s a very exciting prospect. Not sure if his fitness is way under par or what but Wellens seems reluctant to play him for more than 15 minutes a game
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| Quote: The Reaper "He’s struggled a bit this year albeit I think he’s improved over the last few weeks. Apparently he’s been playing on with a knee problem for a lot of the year so could explain his downturn somewhat. Doing better in contact now he’s stopped turning his back going into contact. Unless he adds some weight, he’s more than likely going to be another Matty Lees rather than a big metre eating prop. I think he’s going to be a good player but probably not the level of which his early reputation suggested. Still only 20 though I believe so plenty of time on his side.
I agree about Stephens, he’s a very exciting prospect. Not sure if his fitness is way under par or what but Wellens seems reluctant to play him for more than 15 minutes a game'"
He looks unfit to me. Carrying quite a large amount of timber. I know he is a prop but he needs conditioning properly. I said to YG a couple of weeks ago that he looks like the best player out of the ones that have come through this year. He is going to be a top notcher IMO but that fitness definitely needs some work. Delaney just reminds me of Partington. Loads of heart but a bit of a crash barrier, not many yards but won't take a backward step.
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| Quote: The Reaper "The optimism I’d held for a grand total of one week is officially dead! Season is over next week. We’re just not good enough at the moment and our coach has no good ideas. After half time we were 12-0 down and needed to give it a real go and he played a conservative grind that slowly gained us some territory until we threw it all away after 10 mins with an error and a penalty. Stephens was great in his cameo, but will likely be dropped next week when Walmsley is back, instead of Paasi who should actually be dropped.
I’m one of those hopelessly optimistic fans for the most part and even when we were at our worst I never gave up complete hope because this team had earned a lot of faith with me. But I’ve officially given it all up now, our race is run.
Just hope the semis and final are good, close games. Still can’t see past you v HKR for the final, although it has to be said that KR are starting to look a bit shaky, might be the pressure getting to them so wouldn’t be entirely surprised if Warrington sneak in there instead
Can’t really see past you lot winning it, unfortunately'"
Why unfortunately?
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| Quote: NickyKiss "What are Saints fans thinking with Delaney currently? He was lauded coming through but I always just thought he looked like Mark Edmondson had made a comeback. He is as game as they come but his running style lends itself to getting bashed about the place and that quickly takes its toll. On the other hand, Stephens is looking the real deal. He doesn't look much of an athlete but he is so awkward to tackle and is very very rarely getting dominated.'"
The lad needs to get to the ground and gain a quick play the ball rather than getting battered when he hits the line. I genuinely fear for his long-term health if he carries on like this.
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| Matty Lees in the dream team.
I'm off to check my calendar.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Matty Lees in the dream team.
I'm off to check my calendar.'"
Wellens for coach of the year?
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Matty Lees in the dream team.
I'm off to check my calendar.'"
Who decides on who is selected for the Dream Team? The Lees selection suggests we need a drugs test for the selector(s).
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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Sneyd over French
No chance for Thompson I think this was the leader board before it went dark
https://www.superleague.co.uk/man-of-steel/leaderboard
Lewis will have picked some 3s up, sneyd and macdonald will have took some points of each other and I reckon dufty would have had a bagfull of 3s prior to going down for 4 weeks
I reckon it'll be between sneyd Lewis and dufty maybe macdonald
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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Sneyd over French
No chance for Thompson I think this was the leader board before it went dark
https://www.superleague.co.uk/man-of-steel/leaderboard
Lewis will have picked some 3s up, sneyd and macdonald will have took some points of each other and I reckon dufty would have had a bagfull of 3s prior to going down for 4 weeks
I reckon it'll be between sneyd Lewis and dufty maybe macdonald
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| McDonald has been outstanding to be fair, but think Lewis is winning it comfortably
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Matty Lees in the dream team.
I'm off to check my calendar.'"
I would have picked Byrne in front of Lees
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
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CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Matty Lees in the dream team.
I'm off to check my calendar.'"
I'm not being funny but there should be no Saints players in the dream team this season. Any player on a team that have lost 12 games in 27 shouldn't have a sniff really.
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| Quote: The Reaper "McDonald has been outstanding to be fair, but think Lewis is winning it comfortably'"
It’s not something I am interested in since the powers that be gave the award to Roby ahead of Barrett. Nothing against Roby he was a fine player but that season just showed what a farce the honour was.
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| Matty lees lmao. The prop who’s never made a post contact meter in his life lol
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