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Agree with Bryne being one of the most frustrating players I've seen. I'm convinced he could easily be one of the best props in SL, but he has so many mistakes and technical failings that he has in his game. We are getting so few minutes out of him we may as well be playing Eseh.

At the back of my mind though is he will be coming into his prime now - and it would be a shame if he goes on to another club and smashes it...........

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "With Chan and Eseh to Hull and no mention of Cooper we could be trouble if god forbid Thompson, Havard or Havard pick up an injury. I had high hopes of Eseh and was hoping that he could have leapfrogged over Mago to make the 17 on a pretty regular basis.'"

Is that confirmed that Eseh is going to Hull on loan for next year?
I was hoping he would come to Leeds.

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Quote: chapylad "Is that confirmed that Eseh is going to Hull on loan for next year?
I was hoping he would come to Leeds.'"


It's this season Eseh has gone to Hull FC. He'll be back with Wigan for next season.

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Quote: apollosghost "Re. Mago, to me he looks better the longer minutes he gets like last night, it's the 10 min cameos were IMO he offers very little, I wish MP would show a bit more faith in him.
When he's got 4 men hanging off him and he still stays upright and gets that quick ptb it opens up loads of room for us.'"


The period of us having 4 props on the bench seemed to hurt him. Him playing 10-20 minutes a game was doing him no good and he looks like he's put some weight back on to me. He looked better last night for the extra minutes as you say and I hope we keep that sort of balance on our bench going forward (2 props, a second row and then either a utility back or Forber).

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Quote: NickyKiss "It's this season Eseh has gone to Hull FC. He'll be back with Wigan for next season.'"
Cheers mate.
I thought he did ok for us but others didn`t rate him.
I would say his aggression in the tackle was good but maybe didn`t make enough yards pretty much like the rest of our pack!

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He looks like a lad who needs a run of games to me. His start at Leeds looked a bit error riddled but he got better as he went along. I've seen a few Leeds fans saying (jokingly I presume) Wigan have called him back because we're scared of the improved Leeds form but realistically I think it's just that Wigan feel he'll get more games/minutes at Hull FC.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He looks like a lad who needs a run of games to me. His start at Leeds looked a bit error riddled but he got better as he went along. I've seen a few Leeds fans saying (jokingly I presume) Wigan have called him back because we're scared of the improved Leeds form but realistically I think it's just that Wigan feel he'll get more games/minutes at Hull FC.'"


He definitely will, most of our forwards are currently injured, banned or have failed HIAs!
Hopefully he can give us a bit of punch.
He will also be squad number 52 which is absurd really.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "With Chan and Eseh to Hull and no mention of Cooper we could be trouble if god forbid Thompson, Havard or Havard pick up an injury. I had high hopes of Eseh and was hoping that he could have leapfrogged over Mago to make the 17 on a pretty regular basis.'"


O don't think Chan is good enough for Wigan, I don't think full strength he'd get into Hull side this season and that's saying something, hasn't looked great in the games he has played so far for us

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Quote: Dave K. "O don't think Chan is good enough for Wigan, I don't think full strength he'd get into Hull side this season and that's saying something, hasn't looked great in the games he has played so far for us'"

Bit of an “odd” signing Chan. Doesn’t seem big enough for prop and unsure if he can develop into a backrow forward.
He seems to have loads of enthusiasm but that’s not enough to ensure a place in any SL team.
I have high hopes (might be unfounded) on Eseh and I was really surprised when we sent on loan for the remainder of the season.

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None of Eseh chan or Walters have done anything of note. Absolutely nothing. If all 3 left I don't think we'd notice

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Quote: bazdev "None of Eseh chan or Walters have done anything of note. Absolutely nothing. If all 3 left I don't think we'd notice'"


I'm not sure I've seen enough of them to make a judgement.

If nothing else, though, all three must now know they'll need to step it up to get selected regularly. I suppose it depend on how they respond to that challenge.

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I’ve not seen the Leigh game but I felt Walters showed up well last week all be it he was only on the pitch for the final 20 mins vs Huddersfield.

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Quote: jonh "I’ve not seen the Leigh game but I felt Walters showed up well last week all be it he was only on the pitch for the final 20 mins vs Huddersfield.'"

He was good in his stint against Leigh too John. He's starting to look hard to handle and more like the player we thought we'd signed. We haven't seen the running lines that he showed latterly at Leeds but I'm sure that will come.

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Chan, Eseh and Walters are in different cases for me. Chan and Eseh are project signings. I don't think either of them were signed with the expectation of playing much for Wigan this year. They might make it, they might not. Walters, however, was definitely signed with this season very much in mind. Personally, I have been giving him the benefit of the doubt, as his pre-season was messed up and, as we saw with KPP last season, that can take a while to come back from. I do think Walters has shown improvement over the last three or four games, but he definitely needed to. He has been prone to errors and has not always looked like he's bringing the intensity he needs. And, as many of us have said, there is considerable doubt as to whether his future is in the back row or the front row. Right at this moment, he doesn't look to me as if he has quite the aggression needed for the front row, or the punch out wide for the back row. Certainly not compared to Nsemba, for example. But, he is improving, so I am hopeful that if he stays fit and keeps getting minutes he will continue to pick up. Next year, if he has the benefit of a proper pre-season, he may still be the player we hoped he would be. I would still like some more cover in the back row, though, with Faz getting older and Isa possibly on his way out. For Chan and Eseh, I am not too fussed. Hopefully, some more game time next season and then we should know if they have a long-term future with us, or whether they're in the Ramon Silva category.

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Fully expect Walters to have his best game in front of that Rhino's South Stand on Saturday.

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