That’s the logical outcome but mathematically not factual. Catalans will finish on 32 points if they beat Salford, Hull and London. Salford can accumulate 34 points with three wins. Leigh can finish on 33 points and Leeds 32. I agree it is a tall order to expect all those things to happen. I think that Saints will definitely need two wins to get a home tie which necessitates winning at Leigh and as I said they ‘may’ need to win two to make the six. If they play like yesterday then they are doomed.

How can all those things happen? Salford can't beat Catalans at the same time as Catalans beat Salford?

One win should enough bearing in mind all the permutations

Copied and pasted from RedVee and this is the best explanation for me......

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Been going through the fixtures to work out all the possibilities.

Current table:
Saints 28
Salford 28
Leigh 27
Catalans 26
Leeds 26

Fixtures: (my lousy predictions in brackets)

SAINTS
Wire A (L)
Cas H (W)
Leigh A (L)

SALFORD
Catalans H (W)
Hull FC A (W)
Wigan A (L)

LEIGH
Cas A (W)
Hull KR H (L)
Saints H (W)

CATALANS
Salford A (L)
London H (W)
Hull FC A (W)

LEEDS
Hull FC H (W)
Wigan A (L)
Hull KR A (L)

Would leave the final table:

Salford 32
Leigh 31
Saints 30
Catalans 30
Leeds 28

Boldly assuming a win against Cas, it would be very unlikely that we miss the playoffs given Leeds' run-in and Catalans inferior points difference.

Leigh away a huge game for them as a defeat could well see them drop out. A win for us would put us in 4th and give us another home game, and a loss would mean Warrington away first up.

I'm just desperate for us to continue our proud record of being the only team to make the play offs every season in SL. I have zero expectations on us getting past Week 1 but at least we can preserve a record.

It's not just a tall order - it's impossible as Salford play Catalans this week.

Saints will win it from 6th scoring a grand total off 11 points in the process

You cannot really know that for sure without factoring in the final results and what the score was when the card was issued.

There are plenty of games were the cards don't make a difference to the final result.

That’s not really the point though. Yes, the team losing a player may have lost even with 13, or the team losing a player may overcome and win anyway. What’s undeniable in every single case though is it completely changes the dynamic and momentum of the game

Murphy confirmed now on a 2 year deal

Well Well Well RobRiches- its almost like I do have sources after all....posted this before the media started to, check the date d**k head

Much improved backline for 25

1.Sailor 2.Feldt 3.Karapani 4.Percival 5.Murphy 6.Welsby 7.Lomax

Still think there is plenty of work to do on that pack but with Briers coming too should see an upturn in your attack.

Great signing if he's got over that bad injury, got to admit I've seen nothing of him since he went to Oz but he looked a terrific young player at Wakey

Karapani isn't cut and dried its just that it seems Briers is definitely bringing a young centre with him and fans are looking at who is off contract. Karapani is in and around the first team now and the fans seem to rate him.

There's also Robertson to add to that 1-7 at some point. He's played way more games this year than first envisaged and the lad has looked vulnerable at times and made a few errors. He needs taking out of the firing line for the rest of this season (seems like Welsby may be back in a couple of weeks against Cas) but with a good pre-season and hopefully a bit of size put on, he will get more games next season.

I agree with the pack btw, think we need another prop but would have to be English and non-quota

Decent back line for next year. No excuses for Wellens next year not to challenge for silverware