We're obviously different teams. Personally, I think we've got more dog about us and they've got serious size and skill. I don't think we're a million miles away in the backs.

We're one, big & experienced forward off having a great pack imo. That's either another prop and Ellis to 13, or a standalone 13. Either extra size as a counter to the excellent, but small, back row, or another prop instead of Singleton.

It's just one player in Alex Walmsley that's the difference for me. We're not going to find anyone like him and that's why it's so important that all four front rowers chip in with a good contribution. Replacing Singleton with Havard and moving Ellis to 13 is probably our best option.

Hull are doing just about everything you cant do against Saints if you want to have a chance. Their discipline is woeful and their tackling technique just as bad.

Sadly I don't see how we can do both. If you drop Singleton and move Ellis to 13, that then opens up two prop spots. After Havard, it's a bit threadbare tbh.

It's Saints defence that impresses me. They seem to get off the line so quick and go hunting. It's as though they enjoy defending and it's actually the attacking team who are under pressure.

100%. They’re so un Saints like nowadays. They’re pretty turgid with the ball in truth but they absolutely run you in to the ground when you carry the ball, leave you out of gas and then take advantage with pretty simply try’s in attack.

Hulls early game plan today was absolutely spot on but they kept making errors. They moved the ball and tried to exploit the space in behind that Saints leave you. They push their centres/wingers up in defence and have been caught a couple of times with kicks in to the corners. We certainly won’t be able to match them in a battle down the middle but we’ll have a shot if we keep turning them and use the pace of French, Field and Marshall. Keep making Walmsley run back to his line and if that means kicking on the 4th tackle fair enough.

We could insist Walmsley plays the ball properly. That should gas him

It’s like 2019 again.

SaInTs AtTaCk iS rUbBiSH

No it’s not. It’s light years ahead of every one else

Entertainers?

Hudds have scored more points than you and they've done it against 13 men

Saints attack is not all that, and quite right it's their speed off the line that wins them games. Walmsley is one of the best props on the planet, but Aussie refs wouldn't put up with him walking off the mark.

I’ve just been flicking through YouTube and came across the 2016 Good Friday game. If you want an indication of how quick a club can turn around get this for a Saints lineup-

1-McDonnell
2-Makinson 3-Peyroux 4-Dawson 5-Owens
6-Fages 7-Walsh
8-Amor 9-Burns 10-Tasi
11-Wilkin 12-Greenwood 13-LMS

It gives me shudders at just how bad they were but how good they are now and also hope, that we’re now on the right path and with a couple of good recruitment decisions you’re in business.

They did have a bench containing Walmsley, Thompson and Roby mind, so not all that bad.

Just letting you know mate that it appears only half of your post has been posted. This bit is just you saying "no it's not" so I'm assuming the bit where you explain why it's not has been missed off for some reason...