Flower should have been used at loose IMO, that worked really well I'm 2013. He got through a ton of defence (49 tackles!). Agree about Mossop and Crosby, would add Patrick to that as well. Sutton didn't offer much either

If I were the Mugwump this board thinks I am I would demand an apology from the lot of you for pointing out what I felt was an obvious frailty in the pack over sixteen months ago - only to be labelled a "troll".

But I'm far too chivalrous and philanthropic to kick a guy when he's on the ground.

You don't say - thanks for that insight - and they say Wolfs know nothing about RL!

Mossop, Patrick and Tautai are no improvement on Gil Dudson.

We are missing Scott Taylor. Not the Lard-Arse he has become, but the yard-making forward he used to be.

Peacock and Leuluai showing how it's done !

Seeing Saints get smashed almost makes up for last night. Bet we don't see Mugwimp on here again for another week.

"The best set of forwards in the world - ever" look as good as our lot last night.

Aren't they just!

You have to admire Jamie Peacock - what a guy! Can't imagine what he thinks when he watches our lot.

Saints haven't been great (but still much better than us last night), but Leeds are comfortably the best side in the comp.

Leeds are going to skin us next week

Cold Comfort Farm indeed. Even if we beat Leeds, now it'll look like papering over the cracks.

It's two weeks now since the Salford debacle and I'm finally past the shock it gave me.
The current pack are not good enough full stop but they still have to show some pride.
We need to get back to our full on aggression and take no shoite.
Against Wire there were 3 incidents where our forwards should have taken the initiative but did nothing.
Sims had a dig at Williams. He should have got cleaned out.
Sims was basically taking the urine out of Flower before forming a scrum and Flower did nothing. Flower has made his bed but he owes it to himself and the team to get back to a very aggressive type if forward. Flower should have sorted Sims out in next set of six. If he can't do this anymore then pay him off.
Patrick got involved in some pushing and shoving believing he had been fouled or whatever. He should have taken on the nearest opponent to him and had a go at sorting him out.

It seems our forwards can't cross a line either subconsciously or it's the party since the GF.
It is now 9 months since Flower got his deserved punishment it is time to move on.
SW should cease all interviews for the rest of the season and any other marketing tripe that the club has to do these days. KR can do that.
We are viewed quite rightly as pussies at the moment SW has got to get us back to mongrels. It may not work but at least as fans we can get some pride back knowing that the forwards are at least giving concerted effort.
MM to do a full 80 minutes. If this is not possible due to an injury if possible put SOL there while he has a breather. Powell, Williams et al are not capable of continuing an aggressive approach. I actually prefer Bateman to cover the 9 but from what I hear he may not be available for sometime.
I never thought I would say this but let's get back to 4 forwards on the bench and accept that with the present pack we do need that backup rather than wasting a place with Powell who to be fair to him just isn't capable of covering MM.

Nothing new or earth shattering but as a minimum may just spark a bit of pride that the fans badly need at the moment.

Our forwards were summed up completely on Thursday night when two minutes into the second half, Williams had a tap restart. He turned around to see no forwards wanting to take the ball in and had to run the ball in himself, to which he got hit hard and then a couple of punches from Ashton Sims.

The most annoying thing is, I fully expect them to turn it on against Leeds at home next week. Which makes the loss, and our overall away form, so more frustrating.