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| Quote: Deano G "for me the jury is still out on BN'"
Could I just revise that please?
The jury has now come in. The verdict is: guilty on all charges.
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| Nobby, as much as i like him as a person isn't the man to take us forward..his coaching limitations are there for all to see.
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| So lets look at the situation
Nine ex-NRL superheroes who Noble just idolises.
A team full of highly paid internationals, one being the highest paid prop in the game and a recent international addition in Gleeson.
Young British players not knowing when they will be dropped next.
Players going backwards under his coaching.
All that and currently the side is outside of the top 8
It is just ridiculous for IL to even consider extending the contract of this Noble character.
Surely there is a duty of care to the Wigan supporters.
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| Quote: The Eclipse "So lets look at the situation
Nine ex-NRL superheroes who Noble just idolises.
A team full of highly paid internationals, one being the highest paid prop in the game and a recent international addition in Gleeson.
Young British players not knowing when they will be dropped next.
Players going backwards under his coaching.
All that and currently the side is outside of the top 8
It is just ridiculous for IL to even consider extending the contract of this Noble character.
Surely there is a duty of care to the Wigan supporters.
The fact that we are not in the top 8 at this stage of the seson is major issue now.
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| Quote: jonh "The fact that we are not in the top 8 at this stage of the seson is major issue now.'"
Yes, it is, but that's not the issue.
The issue is that we were disappointing in relation to what we wanted to achieve in regards to getting the cabbage paid.
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| We didn't play that badly tonight. We put some ball down in the last quarter trying to force something.
The usual we lost so lets pepper Noble was obviously going to happen but its misplaced today imo.
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| Quote: AJ "We didn't play that badly tonight. We put some ball down in the last quarter trying to force something.
The usual we lost so lets pepper Noble was obviously going to happen but its misplaced today imo.'"
Regardless of team selection?
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| Quote: jonh "Regardless of team selection?'"
Yes, because before the game, many agreed he had picked the right team. Riddell for Sam was the only change. With the way KR defended its hard to say what could have happened.
Next week he could be called into question if he doesnt select a team based on those who didnt perform last night.
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| Quote: AJ "Yes, because before the game, many agreed he had picked the right team. Riddell for Sam was the only change. With the way KR defended its hard to say what could have happened.
Next week he could be called into question if he doesnt select a team based on those who didnt perform last night.'"
We lost because we couldn't convert pressure into points.
We couldn't convert pressure into points because our creative spark was sat in the stands.
Our creative spark was sat in the stands because the cabbage earning Camel had picked the wrong team.
Wins against Wakefield, and an out of sorts Saints team, cannot disguise the fact that Noble has lost the plot, and has to go.
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| Quote: AJ "Yes, because before the game, many agreed he had picked the right team. Riddell for Sam was the only change. With the way KR defended its hard to say what could have happened.
Next week he could be called into question if he doesnt select a team based on those who didnt perform last night.'"
Including me, but we are not the coach of Wigan RL, and add to that we do not have full knowledge of the fitness of the players that Noble does.
I fail to see why you point to next week and chose to ignore this weeks team selection as if wanting to sweep it under the rug and pretend it did not happen.
Looking at the facts BN dropped Ainscough after a 4 try return and Tomkins after a crucial match winning contribution for it seems an unfit player in Riddell and Carmont who is not near 100% either.
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| Quote: jonh "Including me, but we are not the coach of Wigan RL, and add to that we do not have full knowledge of the fitness of the players that Noble does.
I fail to see why you point to next week and chose to ignore this weeks team selection as if wanting to sweep it under the rug and pretend it did not happen.
Looking at the facts BN dropped Ainscough after a 4 try return and Tomkins after a crucial match winning contribution for it seems an unfit player in Riddell and Carmont who is not near 100% either.'"
Im pointing to next week because the team didnt click as intended but before the game nobody saw the problem. The team for next week will once and for all put to bed the whole pick on form, keep/lose your place debate.
Carmont didn't struggle during the game and Riddell didnt seem unfit to me, he just didnt look d, there is a difference.
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| Quote: AJ "Im pointing to next week because the team didnt click as intended but before the game nobody saw the problem. The team for next week will once and for all put to bed the whole pick on form, keep/lose your place debate.
Carmont didn't struggle during the game and Riddell didnt seem unfit to me, he just didnt look d, there is a difference.'"
Tomkins is on form and was dropped. Riddell has not played for 2 weeks and was selected, i think that points someway towards the picking on form debate.
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| Quote: AJ "I truly don't believe that is what he is refering to in terms of this season and anyone who does is imo naive.'"
Call me naive if you wish. But in no way does that statement refer - in ANY shape or form - to Noble being offered a new contract.
If was the usual vague support that chairmen offer to struggling coaches in response to repeated questions from the press.
I'd actually argue that you are being naive to think otherwise.
If Brian Noble was in no danger of losing his job at the end of this year, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. The deal would most likely have been done and announced - what purpose would cryptic hints serve?
And I'm guessing that last night's selection farce will have made it even less likely.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Call me naive if you wish. But in no way does that statement refer - in ANY shape or form - to Noble being offered a new contract.'"
We could both be being, and it could well be a way of sitting on the fence, maybe im reading more into it than you are, but it wouldnt suprise me at all if it was a new deal being hinted at.
Quote: Cruncher "And I'm guessing that last night's selection farce will have made it even less likely.'"
Perhaps, but had we won, Noble would have gained plaudits, and we weren't that far off.
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