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Quote: NickyKiss "That sort of money makes you realise how much we’d need to pay Farrell and the risks that come with that. Giving a guy who might not be able to contribute as much as many other players an absolute fortune might not be the best thing for squad harmony.'"


Sounds to me like OF's agent is playing a canny game.

It might be for the best if we just steer clear. For that kind of money, we could get an RL international who's younger and has a proven pedigree..

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Who do you think we could realistically look to bring in for next season? (if we do recruit)

Do you think we will start the season with what we have and look for something mid season again?

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Quote: dh13 "Who do you think we could realistically look to bring in for next season? (if we do recruit)

Do you think we will start the season with what we have and look for something mid season again?'"


We always tend to have room to bring in a mid-season signing

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Quote: [Gareth] ""We always tend to have room to bring in a mid-season signing'"


It’s always a good option as you never know what can happen with injuries in certain areas etc. Being really greedy I’d like us to get a ball playing 13 in, but if we go with what we’ve got for now with the Owen Farrell ‘rumours’ looking further far-fetched, I still think we will be fine.

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Quote: [Gareth] ""We always tend to have room to bring in a mid-season signing'"


We have room on the cap at the moment and if Joe Shorrocks leaves we, in theory, could sign another marquee player.

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Quote: stpatricks "Post on RU site that Saracens will be using their one marquee slot on the cap for Owen Farrell.'"


This? https://www.planetrugby.com/news/400k-p ... ell-report
Quote: stpatricks "Post on RU site that Saracens will be using their one marquee slot on the cap for Owen Farrell.'"


This? https://www.planetrugby.com/news/400k-p ... ell-report


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Never quite understood where the Farrell talk came from,ok Wigan have a rich owner now but they tend to stay rich by being canny with their money the sheer amount that would be needed is clearly silly money (why would he come for a huge pay cut) and the risks that him not playing the game for many,many years is and are huge to me it makes zero sense.

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Quote: Zig "We have room on the cap at the moment and if Joe Shorrocks leaves we, in theory, could sign another marquee player.'"


You sure? Surely we have 3 designated marquee players now? If we brought in someone as marquee it would relegate one of those to a position where their wage would fully count on the cap, and looking at our squad for next season I find it pretty hard to believe we have much wiggle room for bringing in another player. If we do have room for this and we were willing to spend silly money on Farrell then I would like us to send a transfer fee to Leeds or Hull KR and try to get Smith or Minchella.

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Quote: Stranger "Never quite understood where the Farrell talk came from,ok Wigan have a rich owner now but they tend to stay rich by being canny with their money the sheer amount that would be needed is clearly silly money (why would he come for a huge pay cut) and the risks that him not playing the game for many,many years is and are huge to me it makes zero sense.'"


Due to the amount of people posting about OF and some with good track records and reputations on this site I can only presume there was some truth behind it and a meeting was had with Wigan and OF, looking at the article posted maybe OF and his agent thought he would be the one who would get pushed out of the marquee spot and offered £400k to which Wigan could compete with? Maybe a deal was close to being agreed which made Saracens counter with a marquee offer which Wigan couldn’t compete with?

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Quote: CobraCraig "You sure? Surely we have 3 designated marquee players now? If we brought in someone as marquee it would relegate one of those to a position where their wage would fully count on the cap, and looking at our squad for next season I find it pretty hard to believe we have much wiggle room for bringing in another player. If we do have room for this and we were willing to spend silly money on Farrell then I would like us to send a transfer fee to Leeds or Hull KR and try to get Smith or Minchella.'"


I’m sure Thompson will be our English marquee player with Field and French the overseas ones.

Farrell wouldn’t need to be marquee in year one as he would count as 0 against the cap.

In regards playing transfer frees for Minchella or Smith, it would be a big no from me. Don’t see where they improve us other than with squad depth but would command inflated salaries, I’d rather keep Shorrocks.

There may be significant risks on the field with any move for Farrell but from a profile and commercial point of view despite the salary out lay it would not be a massive win for the club.

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Quote: CobraCraig "You sure? Surely we have 3 designated marquee players now? If we brought in someone as marquee it would relegate one of those to a position where their wage would fully count on the cap, and looking at our squad for next season I find it pretty hard to believe we have much wiggle room for bringing in another player. If we do have room for this and we were willing to spend silly money on Farrell then I would like us to send a transfer fee to Leeds or Hull KR and try to get Smith or Minchella.'"


We will have three marquee players but we will nominate those players that give us the greatest financial benefit against the SC. We didn’t need to let Powell go to balance the books and if we allow Shorrocks to leave we will have more than £150k to spend which would, in theory, allow us to sign a marquee player. As Jon says, OF wouldn’t count against the cap and Field, dependant on his salary (he wasn’t marquee last season) could also be accommodated as well.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Due to the amount of people posting about OF and some with good track records and reputations on this site I can only presume there was some truth behind it and a meeting was had with Wigan and OF, looking at the article posted maybe OF and his agent thought he would be the one who would get pushed out of the marquee spot and offered £400k to which Wigan could compete with? Maybe a deal was close to being agreed which made Saracens counter with a marquee offer which Wigan couldn’t compete with?'"

Wasn’t he already on 800k at saracens though that’d have to be some climb down wage wise to even come close to what he’s currently earning and yes I understand he will be on less as the next contract won’t be anywhere near the one he’s on it’ll still be a fair slice of pie far more than league can realistically offer.

I’d say this union as a sport is coming to a big reckoning sooner rather than later you can’t keep shelling wages out like this without huge deals in place to cover it.

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Quote: Stranger "Wasn’t he already on 800k at saracens though that’d have to be some climb down wage wise to even come close to what he’s currently earning and yes I understand he will be on less as the next contract won’t be anywhere near the one he’s on it’ll still be a fair slice of pie far more than league can realistically offer.

I’d say this union as a sport is coming to a big reckoning sooner rather than later you can’t keep shelling wages out like this without huge deals in place to cover it.'"


I don’t believe under our current ownership that the wage is more than our new owner could realistically offer. It’s probably not sustainable but it would be as a 1 off statement signing.

Another Union club is reported to have struggled to make payments to its players last week so after losing 2 clubs in the last few years I’d say you are bang on with your second paragraph.

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Quote: jonh "I don’t believe under our current ownership that the wage is more than our new owner could realistically offer. It’s probably not sustainable but it would be as a 1 off statement signing.

Another Union club is reported to have struggled to make payments to its players last week so after losing 2 clubs in the last few years I’d say you are bang on with your second paragraph.'"

I certainly respect what you say in regards to a statement signing but I'd counter Danson has made a statement signing in Thompson he will be on few Bob for sure,I agree the Farrell story refuses to go away but to me the all it ever was just rumours and nothing more,I'll say it again Billionaires tend to stay that not by chucking money about,who knows is this agent talk using Wigan as leverage to secure his marquee deal who knows but for me and I make no claim to any knowledge at all I think it's just that rumours.

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Quote: Stranger "I certainly respect what you say in regards to a statement signing but I'd counter Danson has made a statement signing in Thompson he will be on few Bob for sure,I agree the Farrell story refuses to go away but to me the all it ever was just rumours and nothing more,I'll say it again Billionaires tend to stay that not by chucking money about,who knows is this agent talk using Wigan as leverage to secure his marquee deal who knows but for me and I make no claim to any knowledge at all I think it's just that rumours.'"


I think there was a point where contact has been made but I’m not sure it’s gone beyond that.

With Itoje confirming he is due to leave I’d say it’s virtually impossible that Farrell will leave as well in the same season given their leadership roles at Saracens.

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